who plays chess here?

[kathisterima]

cringe take

chess is just a board game, there's nothing special about it. As to why it appeared "classier" in the past, it is because everything appeared "classier" in the past, a completely different time setting with different societal and cultural norms. I'm putting classy in quotation marks because the term is a social construct, there can not be explicit use of the adjective.

I don't get why you are trying to be reactionary and controversial, your roast of Magnus and Hikaru is so forced and needless here. At least when Fischer was trashing chess about its modern state, he had the credentials to back himself up. I can't take anyone who is not at least GM seriously when they say those things.

lol, sure, im not qualified to make the objective analysis that fischer played as a part of an international war, while magnus and hikaru play just cause theyre idiot savants, because im not a GM.


u give me anti-intellectual intellectual vibes, i have a valid opinion, and u just felt like putting urself above me for the sake of it, but u made no real point.

and no, im not falling for some romanticization of the old era, i dont care about that old
head garbage. its just a fact that now we have computers, and therefore we now we have advanced objective theory, therefore significantly less creativity is required; its boring. Why is Magnus the best of all time, but never played any sequences that compare to the beauty of Tal, Nezh, Fischer, blanca...? Computers and theory, thats why. Its boring, and its soulless.

no better way than starting off with the strawman

if you think that about chess it is fine, just know that you are not making a correct assessment

engines if anything diversified the game by proving many variations that were previously thought as impossible to play, are actually playable

magnus doesn't have beautiful games? yeah, right... 

The reason you don't see people sacrificing 3 pieces and then winning in high level games nowadays isn't that they lack creativity, but simply because the players nowadays are sound enough defensively to be able to hold off at such sharp positions

Chess, especially blitz and rapid, is more interesting than ever because the players are better than ever. Classic has always been pretty lackluster, it personally doesn't interest me. You can't act like Fischer played "creatively" in his World Chess Championship matches. And no, it's just a board game.

Yea sure Fischer's game 6 against Spassky wasnt even creative


I would bet something like... $1000? That ur 1500? You probably watch GothamChess and Agadmator or something, and feel the need to defend the honour of modern era for... whatever reason... maybe because its all you know? Its how you learned this game?

Ok here, forget everything either of us said. Now, look at the Botez twins, most popular chess players in the world, and go ahead and tell me the state of the chess comminity isnt utterly pathetic and corrupted as compared to the era of the soviets... Please... And no, its not just because theyre "pretty females", its because they dress and act like whores, not intelligent "women".

And yes, it is just a board game in and of itself, especially today. But in the old ages, you could be a peasant worshipped by Kings for being good enough at it. Or be a hero of your country. Why? Because it was a great indicator of YOUR INHERENT CREATIVITY, NOT YOUR ABILITY TO MEMORIZE A COMPUTER'S CREATIVITY.

Show me ur above 2k even in online chess and ill shut up.

yeah sure man, all modern players do is memorize 1 billion lines (whereas older players were playing completely off the dome) and whichever humanoid has the best processing hardware wins. And no, I don't watch streamers so these names tell me nothing (it's a completely off-topic subject anyways). You really make this sound like sour grapes now that you told us about your chess elo insecurity.

[brocode]

Chess, a game onced loved by gentlemen and geniuses, now a game filled with coping soys and idiot savants. 

You can tell the state of a game by its champions. Bobby Fischer: a philosopher, a political theorist, a man of fortitude and belief in himself with no care for the perverted expectations of society; a man who fought over the board for the dignity of his nation. Meanwhile, these days, Hikaru: a libtard fat stoner twitch streamer who can barely string together a conherent sentence outside of chess, and Magnus, a down syndrome looking subhuman, who compares himself to the universe, but is in reality just a drunk who has never played an internationally impactful game of chess in his life; a degenerate who stopped caring about winning, but keeps playing just for groupies. Zero integrity, zero manhood, zero real inteligence. 100% fraud.

This game has deteriorated to a level of degeneracy equal to pornography, honestly, its just mental masturbation but with no positive effect on the world like the sciences or philosophy. Its just: "who can study more, for absolutely zero reason".

wait what? groupies? would you mind elaborating if you don't mind, i dont watch twitch and im not aware of all the tropes happening.
I just play chess irl with buddies or on lichess anonymously. this is very new to me.
also wtf. why would they fraud, chess is a very good analytical game to train ur mind and make urself more disciplined.

[10khitman]

lol, sure, im not qualified to make the objective analysis that fischer played as a part of an international war, while magnus and hikaru play just cause theyre idiot savants, because im not a GM.


u give me anti-intellectual intellectual vibes, i have a valid opinion, and u just felt like putting urself above me for the sake of it, but u made no real point.

and no, im not falling for some romanticization of the old era, i dont care about that old
head garbage. its just a fact that now we have computers, and therefore we now we have advanced objective theory, therefore significantly less creativity is required; its boring. Why is Magnus the best of all time, but never played any sequences that compare to the beauty of Tal, Nezh, Fischer, blanca...? Computers and theory, thats why. Its boring, and its soulless.

no better way than starting off with the strawman

if you think that about chess it is fine, just know that you are not making a correct assessment

engines if anything diversified the game by proving many variations that were previously thought as impossible to play, are actually playable

magnus doesn't have beautiful games? yeah, right... 

The reason you don't see people sacrificing 3 pieces and then winning in high level games nowadays isn't that they lack creativity, but simply because the players nowadays are sound enough defensively to be able to hold off at such sharp positions

Chess, especially blitz and rapid, is more interesting than ever because the players are better than ever. Classic has always been pretty lackluster, it personally doesn't interest me. You can't act like Fischer played "creatively" in his World Chess Championship matches. And no, it's just a board game.

Yea sure Fischer's game 6 against Spassky wasnt even creative


I would bet something like... $1000? That ur 1500? You probably watch GothamChess and Agadmator or something, and feel the need to defend the honour of modern era for... whatever reason... maybe because its all you know? Its how you learned this game?

Ok here, forget everything either of us said. Now, look at the Botez twins, most popular chess players in the world, and go ahead and tell me the state of the chess comminity isnt utterly pathetic and corrupted as compared to the era of the soviets... Please... And no, its not just because theyre "pretty females", its because they dress and act like whores, not intelligent "women".

And yes, it is just a board game in and of itself, especially today. But in the old ages, you could be a peasant worshipped by Kings for being good enough at it. Or be a hero of your country. Why? Because it was a great indicator of YOUR INHERENT CREATIVITY, NOT YOUR ABILITY TO MEMORIZE A COMPUTER'S CREATIVITY.

Show me ur above 2k even in online chess and ill shut up.

yeah sure man, all modern players do is memorize 1 billion lines (whereas older players were playing completely off the dome) and whichever humanoid has the best processing hardware wins. And no, I don't watch streamers so these names tell me nothing (it's a completely off-topic subject anyways). You really make this sound like sour grapes now that you told us about your chess elo insecurity.

chess elo insecurity? so i was right about ur rating... lol


if making a lichess account and hitting 1800 with zero theory or training after 1 day, then quitting from boredom is sour grapes, then sure. im not sour about myself, im sour about how retarded most chess players are, im sour that theres humans who spend over a year researching just to stagnate at 1500 then get a superiority complex over their ostensive intelligence. Yes, I hate them, I am sour. I hate the community, I hate how people praise hikaru and magnus for being superhuman geniuses when theyre just good with spacial intelligence and offer nothing else of real intellectual value to the world. Its not a good game anymore, its just another cringe comminity filled with coping autists, and its ruled by superior computers which makes it cucked.

And yes, I do think modern players just analyze 1 billion lines.

Chess, a game onced loved by gentlemen and geniuses, now a game filled with coping soys and idiot savants. 

You can tell the state of a game by its champions. Bobby Fischer: a philosopher, a political theorist, a man of fortitude and belief in himself with no care for the perverted expectations of society; a man who fought over the board for the dignity of his nation. Meanwhile, these days, Hikaru: a libtard fat stoner twitch streamer who can barely string together a conherent sentence outside of chess, and Magnus, a down syndrome looking subhuman, who compares himself to the universe, but is in reality just a drunk who has never played an internationally impactful game of chess in his life; a degenerate who stopped caring about winning, but keeps playing just for groupies. Zero integrity, zero manhood, zero real inteligence. 100% fraud.

This game has deteriorated to a level of degeneracy equal to pornography, honestly, its just mental masturbation but with no positive effect on the world like the sciences or philosophy. Its just: "who can study more, for absolutely zero reason".

wait what? groupies? would you mind elaborating if you don't mind, i dont watch twitch and im not aware of all the tropes happening.
I just play chess irl with buddies or on lichess anonymously. this is very new to me.
also wtf. why would they fraud, chess is a very good analytical game to train ur mind and make urself more disciplined.

Everyone at the top of their sport has groupies, magnus is a world champion of a major community, he doesnt need to be an NBA player to have groupies.


And elab how playing chess will make u more intelligent or wise than just reading a good book. Then again, I know you are more into cunning business than philosophical wisdom, so its different, but frankly I value the latter to a significantly higher degree and therefore dont care at all for whatever cognitive benefits come from playing chess. Besides, the brain makes the player, not vice versa, at least IMO.

[brocode]

no better way than starting off with the strawman

if you think that about chess it is fine, just know that you are not making a correct assessment

engines if anything diversified the game by proving many variations that were previously thought as impossible to play, are actually playable

magnus doesn't have beautiful games? yeah, right... 

The reason you don't see people sacrificing 3 pieces and then winning in high level games nowadays isn't that they lack creativity, but simply because the players nowadays are sound enough defensively to be able to hold off at such sharp positions

Chess, especially blitz and rapid, is more interesting than ever because the players are better than ever. Classic has always been pretty lackluster, it personally doesn't interest me. You can't act like Fischer played "creatively" in his World Chess Championship matches. And no, it's just a board game.

Yea sure Fischer's game 6 against Spassky wasnt even creative


I would bet something like... $1000? That ur 1500? You probably watch GothamChess and Agadmator or something, and feel the need to defend the honour of modern era for... whatever reason... maybe because its all you know? Its how you learned this game?

Ok here, forget everything either of us said. Now, look at the Botez twins, most popular chess players in the world, and go ahead and tell me the state of the chess comminity isnt utterly pathetic and corrupted as compared to the era of the soviets... Please... And no, its not just because theyre "pretty females", its because they dress and act like whores, not intelligent "women".

And yes, it is just a board game in and of itself, especially today. But in the old ages, you could be a peasant worshipped by Kings for being good enough at it. Or be a hero of your country. Why? Because it was a great indicator of YOUR INHERENT CREATIVITY, NOT YOUR ABILITY TO MEMORIZE A COMPUTER'S CREATIVITY.

Show me ur above 2k even in online chess and ill shut up.

yeah sure man, all modern players do is memorize 1 billion lines (whereas older players were playing completely off the dome) and whichever humanoid has the best processing hardware wins. And no, I don't watch streamers so these names tell me nothing (it's a completely off-topic subject anyways). You really make this sound like sour grapes now that you told us about your chess elo insecurity.

chess elo insecurity? so i was right about ur rating... lol


if making a lichess account and hitting 1800 with zero theory or training after 1 day, then quitting from boredom is sour grapes, then sure. im not sour about myself, im sour about how retarded most chess players are, im sour that theres humans who spend over a year researching just to stagnate at 1500 then get a superiority complex over their ostensive intelligence. Yes, I hate them, I am sour. I hate the community, I hate how people praise hikaru and magnus for being superhuman geniuses when theyre just good with spacial intelligence and offer nothing else of real intellectual value to the world. Its not a good game anymore, its just another cringe comminity filled with coping autists, and its ruled by superior computers which makes it cucked.

And yes, I do think modern players just analyze 1 billion lines.

Chess, a game onced loved by gentlemen and geniuses, now a game filled with coping soys and idiot savants. 

You can tell the state of a game by its champions. Bobby Fischer: a philosopher, a political theorist, a man of fortitude and belief in himself with no care for the perverted expectations of society; a man who fought over the board for the dignity of his nation. Meanwhile, these days, Hikaru: a libtard fat stoner twitch streamer who can barely string together a conherent sentence outside of chess, and Magnus, a down syndrome looking subhuman, who compares himself to the universe, but is in reality just a drunk who has never played an internationally impactful game of chess in his life; a degenerate who stopped caring about winning, but keeps playing just for groupies. Zero integrity, zero manhood, zero real inteligence. 100% fraud.

This game has deteriorated to a level of degeneracy equal to pornography, honestly, its just mental masturbation but with no positive effect on the world like the sciences or philosophy. Its just: "who can study more, for absolutely zero reason".

wait what? groupies? would you mind elaborating if you don't mind, i dont watch twitch and im not aware of all the tropes happening.
I just play chess irl with buddies or on lichess anonymously. this is very new to me.
also wtf. why would they fraud, chess is a very good analytical game to train ur mind and make urself more disciplined.

Everyone at the top of their sport has groupies, magnus is a world champion of a major community, he doesnt need to be an NBA player to have groupies.


And elab how playing chess will make u more intelligent or wise than just reading a good book. Then again, I know you are more into cunning business than philosophical wisdom, so its different, but frankly I value the latter to a significantly higher degree and therefore dont care at all for whatever cognitive benefits come from playing chess. Besides, the brain makes the player, not vice versa, at least IMO.

Oh you mean how magnus carlsen and other chess grandmaster are slaying chess stacies... ah.
that was always happening though, its nothing new.
A story as old as time.
where there is a mogger, there will be slaying.

Chess improves ur analytical thinking, u think ahead a lot like a lot in chess, all kinds of possible scenarios.
If u lose in chess thats because u made a mistake, its never luck.
its not cunning business, it just helps u lead life, chess is very good for understanding the importance of sacrifices and the chances u have to take (gambits) to win in life.
It's very metaphorical.

[10khitman]

Yea sure Fischer's game 6 against Spassky wasnt even creative


I would bet something like... $1000? That ur 1500? You probably watch GothamChess and Agadmator or something, and feel the need to defend the honour of modern era for... whatever reason... maybe because its all you know? Its how you learned this game?

Ok here, forget everything either of us said. Now, look at the Botez twins, most popular chess players in the world, and go ahead and tell me the state of the chess comminity isnt utterly pathetic and corrupted as compared to the era of the soviets... Please... And no, its not just because theyre "pretty females", its because they dress and act like whores, not intelligent "women".

And yes, it is just a board game in and of itself, especially today. But in the old ages, you could be a peasant worshipped by Kings for being good enough at it. Or be a hero of your country. Why? Because it was a great indicator of YOUR INHERENT CREATIVITY, NOT YOUR ABILITY TO MEMORIZE A COMPUTER'S CREATIVITY.

Show me ur above 2k even in online chess and ill shut up.

yeah sure man, all modern players do is memorize 1 billion lines (whereas older players were playing completely off the dome) and whichever humanoid has the best processing hardware wins. And no, I don't watch streamers so these names tell me nothing (it's a completely off-topic subject anyways). You really make this sound like sour grapes now that you told us about your chess elo insecurity.

chess elo insecurity? so i was right about ur rating... lol


if making a lichess account and hitting 1800 with zero theory or training after 1 day, then quitting from boredom is sour grapes, then sure. im not sour about myself, im sour about how retarded most chess players are, im sour that theres humans who spend over a year researching just to stagnate at 1500 then get a superiority complex over their ostensive intelligence. Yes, I hate them, I am sour. I hate the community, I hate how people praise hikaru and magnus for being superhuman geniuses when theyre just good with spacial intelligence and offer nothing else of real intellectual value to the world. Its not a good game anymore, its just another cringe comminity filled with coping autists, and its ruled by superior computers which makes it cucked.

And yes, I do think modern players just analyze 1 billion lines.

Chess, a game onced loved by gentlemen and geniuses, now a game filled with coping soys and idiot savants. 

You can tell the state of a game by its champions. Bobby Fischer: a philosopher, a political theorist, a man of fortitude and belief in himself with no care for the perverted expectations of society; a man who fought over the board for the dignity of his nation. Meanwhile, these days, Hikaru: a libtard fat stoner twitch streamer who can barely string together a conherent sentence outside of chess, and Magnus, a down syndrome looking subhuman, who compares himself to the universe, but is in reality just a drunk who has never played an internationally impactful game of chess in his life; a degenerate who stopped caring about winning, but keeps playing just for groupies. Zero integrity, zero manhood, zero real inteligence. 100% fraud.

This game has deteriorated to a level of degeneracy equal to pornography, honestly, its just mental masturbation but with no positive effect on the world like the sciences or philosophy. Its just: "who can study more, for absolutely zero reason".

wait what? groupies? would you mind elaborating if you don't mind, i dont watch twitch and im not aware of all the tropes happening.
I just play chess irl with buddies or on lichess anonymously. this is very new to me.
also wtf. why would they fraud, chess is a very good analytical game to train ur mind and make urself more disciplined.

Everyone at the top of their sport has groupies, magnus is a world champion of a major community, he doesnt need to be an NBA player to have groupies.


And elab how playing chess will make u more intelligent or wise than just reading a good book. Then again, I know you are more into cunning business than philosophical wisdom, so its different, but frankly I value the latter to a significantly higher degree and therefore dont care at all for whatever cognitive benefits come from playing chess. Besides, the brain makes the player, not vice versa, at least IMO.

Oh you mean how magnus carlsen and other chess grandmaster are slaying chess stacies... ah.
that was always happening though, its nothing new.
A story as old as time.
where there is a mogger, there will be slaying.

Chess improves ur analytical thinking, u think ahead a lot like a lot in chess, all kinds of possible scenarios.
If u lose in chess thats because u made a mistake, its never luck.
its not cunning business, it just helps u lead life, chess is very good for understanding the importance of sacrifices and the chances u have to take (gambits) to win in life.
It's very metaphorical.

Im not saying its bad chess beckys love him, im saying hes a cucked faggot for not caring about winning anymore just chasing groupies. Took Fischer one tournament to swear of groupies, shows you the difference in manhood of new fags and the classic heroes. 


I dont disagree with ur latter point, but I just think theres better ways to learn. Gives me andrew tate vibes.

[brocode]

yeah sure man, all modern players do is memorize 1 billion lines (whereas older players were playing completely off the dome) and whichever humanoid has the best processing hardware wins. And no, I don't watch streamers so these names tell me nothing (it's a completely off-topic subject anyways). You really make this sound like sour grapes now that you told us about your chess elo insecurity.

chess elo insecurity? so i was right about ur rating... lol


if making a lichess account and hitting 1800 with zero theory or training after 1 day, then quitting from boredom is sour grapes, then sure. im not sour about myself, im sour about how retarded most chess players are, im sour that theres humans who spend over a year researching just to stagnate at 1500 then get a superiority complex over their ostensive intelligence. Yes, I hate them, I am sour. I hate the community, I hate how people praise hikaru and magnus for being superhuman geniuses when theyre just good with spacial intelligence and offer nothing else of real intellectual value to the world. Its not a good game anymore, its just another cringe comminity filled with coping autists, and its ruled by superior computers which makes it cucked.

And yes, I do think modern players just analyze 1 billion lines.

wait what? groupies? would you mind elaborating if you don't mind, i dont watch twitch and im not aware of all the tropes happening.
I just play chess irl with buddies or on lichess anonymously. this is very new to me.
also wtf. why would they fraud, chess is a very good analytical game to train ur mind and make urself more disciplined.

Everyone at the top of their sport has groupies, magnus is a world champion of a major community, he doesnt need to be an NBA player to have groupies.


And elab how playing chess will make u more intelligent or wise than just reading a good book. Then again, I know you are more into cunning business than philosophical wisdom, so its different, but frankly I value the latter to a significantly higher degree and therefore dont care at all for whatever cognitive benefits come from playing chess. Besides, the brain makes the player, not vice versa, at least IMO.

Oh you mean how magnus carlsen and other chess grandmaster are slaying chess stacies... ah.
that was always happening though, its nothing new.
A story as old as time.
where there is a mogger, there will be slaying.

Chess improves ur analytical thinking, u think ahead a lot like a lot in chess, all kinds of possible scenarios.
If u lose in chess thats because u made a mistake, its never luck.
its not cunning business, it just helps u lead life, chess is very good for understanding the importance of sacrifices and the chances u have to take (gambits) to win in life.
It's very metaphorical.

Im not saying its bad chess beckys love him, im saying hes a cucked faggot for not caring about winning anymore just chasing groupies. Took Fischer one tournament to swear of groupies, shows you the difference in manhood of new fags and the classic heroes. 


I dont disagree with ur latter point, but I just think theres better ways to learn. Gives me andrew tate vibes.

Ah... Alright yeah I get your point now. Yeah it is what it is, people are playing it to impress and not genuinely because they enjoy the game. you are right.

I genuinely Enjoy Chess, I've been playing it since I was a kid and it feels good

[Born2Mog]

lol, sure, im not qualified to make the objective analysis that fischer played as a part of an international war, while magnus and hikaru play just cause theyre idiot savants, because im not a GM.


u give me anti-intellectual intellectual vibes, i have a valid opinion, and u just felt like putting urself above me for the sake of it, but u made no real point.

and no, im not falling for some romanticization of the old era, i dont care about that old
head garbage. its just a fact that now we have computers, and therefore we now we have advanced objective theory, therefore significantly less creativity is required; its boring. Why is Magnus the best of all time, but never played any sequences that compare to the beauty of Tal, Nezh, Fischer, blanca...? Computers and theory, thats why. Its boring, and its soulless.

no better way than starting off with the strawman

if you think that about chess it is fine, just know that you are not making a correct assessment

engines if anything diversified the game by proving many variations that were previously thought as impossible to play, are actually playable

magnus doesn't have beautiful games? yeah, right... 

The reason you don't see people sacrificing 3 pieces and then winning in high level games nowadays isn't that they lack creativity, but simply because the players nowadays are sound enough defensively to be able to hold off at such sharp positions

Chess, especially blitz and rapid, is more interesting than ever because the players are better than ever. Classic has always been pretty lackluster, it personally doesn't interest me. You can't act like Fischer played "creatively" in his World Chess Championship matches. And no, it's just a board game.

Yea sure Fischer's game 6 against Spassky wasnt even creative


I would bet something like... $1000? That ur 1500? You probably watch GothamChess and Agadmator or something, and feel the need to defend the honour of modern era for... whatever reason... maybe because its all you know? Its how you learned this game?

Ok here, forget everything either of us said. Now, look at the Botez twins, most popular chess players in the world, and go ahead and tell me the state of the chess comminity isnt utterly pathetic and corrupted as compared to the era of the soviets... Please... And no, its not just because theyre "pretty females", its because they dress and act like whores, not intelligent "women".

And yes, it is just a board game in and of itself, especially today. But in the old ages, you could be a peasant worshipped by Kings for being good enough at it. Or be a hero of your country. Why? Because it was a great indicator of YOUR INHERENT CREATIVITY, NOT YOUR ABILITY TO MEMORIZE A COMPUTER'S CREATIVITY.

Show me ur above 2k even in online chess and ill shut up.

yeah sure man, all modern players do is memorize 1 billion lines (whereas older players were playing completely off the dome) and whichever humanoid has the best processing hardware wins. And no, I don't watch streamers so these names tell me nothing (it's a completely off-topic subject anyways). You really make this sound like sour grapes now that you told us about your chess elo insecurity.

man it's just a game didn't read mostly but this sounds elitist and try hard

it's not different that LOL or DOTA 2 or some incels haven except it isn't social falio

btw magnus would asecend with midface implants and be genuine chad

[kathisterima]

man it's just a game didn't read mostly but this sounds elitist and try hard

it's not different that LOL or DOTA 2 or some incels haven except it isn't social falio

btw magnus would asecend with midface implants and be genuine chad

how?

[Born2Mog]

man it's just a game didn't read mostly but this sounds elitist and try hard

it's not different that LOL or DOTA 2 or some incels haven except it isn't social falio

btw magnus would asecend with midface implants and be genuine chad

how?

not you specifically, quoting u cuz the whole chain

 shitting on the popular chess players, magnus, the japanese one, the female streamers, the vibe of wanting chess to make you high class, old times were better, "playing a game is art", ect

[10khitman]

man it's just a game didn't read mostly but this sounds elitist and try hard

it's not different that LOL or DOTA 2 or some incels haven except it isn't social falio

btw magnus would asecend with midface implants and be genuine chad

how?

not you specifically, quoting u cuz the whole chain

 shitting on the popular chess players, magnus, the japanese one, the female streamers, the vibe of wanting chess to make you high class, old times were better, "playing a game is art", ect

i made only valid points, sorry that modern society has raped your perception of how things should be, genuinely


u clearly dont know chess, but just think, how many communities have been bastardized in the last few decades? surely you must agree its been a trend, music? art? even science is about money and not real research. what makes you think im being elitist about chess when you dont even know anything about it? you are just assuming because you want to have an opinion on it just for the sake of it, but with no knowledge at all. 

at least kath somewhat knows what hes talking about, even if hes hardstuck 1500

and i couldnt care less about class, i care about the game being run by groupie chasers, spineless, soulleless streamers, and girls who dress like hookers

[Born2Mog]

man it's just a game didn't read mostly but this sounds elitist and try hard

it's not different that LOL or DOTA 2 or some incels haven except it isn't social falio

btw magnus would asecend with midface implants and be genuine chad

how?

not you specifically, quoting u cuz the whole chain

 shitting on the popular chess players, magnus, the japanese one, the female streamers, the vibe of wanting chess to make you high class, old times were better, "playing a game is art", ect

i made only valid points, sorry that modern society has raped your perception of how things should be, genuinely


u clearly dont know chess, but just think, how many communities have been bastardized in the last few decades? surely you must agree its been a trend, music? art? even science is about money and not real research. what makes you think im being elitist about chess when you dont even know anything about it? you are just assuming because you want to have an opinion on it just for the sake of it, but with no knowledge at all. 

at least kath somewhat knows what hes talking about, even if hes hardstuck 1500

and i couldnt care less about class, i care about the game being run by groupie chasers, spineless, soulleless streamers, and girls who dress like hookers

i was 1400 smth from when i was into that stuff in ~2015?

music is still good

art is still good

science is still fine? much more advanced in some fields and not any intellectually worse than 1970

seems like you're an old incel/emo type who has a problem with anything becoming popular and no longer a refugee for autism because you identify too much with it

[10khitman]

how?

not you specifically, quoting u cuz the whole chain

 shitting on the popular chess players, magnus, the japanese one, the female streamers, the vibe of wanting chess to make you high class, old times were better, "playing a game is art", ect

i made only valid points, sorry that modern society has raped your perception of how things should be, genuinely


u clearly dont know chess, but just think, how many communities have been bastardized in the last few decades? surely you must agree its been a trend, music? art? even science is about money and not real research. what makes you think im being elitist about chess when you dont even know anything about it? you are just assuming because you want to have an opinion on it just for the sake of it, but with no knowledge at all. 

at least kath somewhat knows what hes talking about, even if hes hardstuck 1500

and i couldnt care less about class, i care about the game being run by groupie chasers, spineless, soulleless streamers, and girls who dress like hookers

i was 1400 smth from when i was into that stuff in ~2015?

music is still good

art is still good

science is still fine? much more advanced in some fields and not any intellectually worse than 1970

seems like you're an old incel/emo type who has a problem with anything becoming popular and no longer a refugee for autism because you identify too much with it

"you have a problem with anything becoming popular", rightttt, im thinking of the good old days when music, art, science, and chess was all esoteric activity!


and yea ur right im just being elitist, lil yachty and 50 cent are totally on the same level of complexity as scriabin, and a blank piece of canvas deserves to be in an art museum... and science is totallyyyyy still legitimate, thats why all the studies in soda drinks is funded by soda companies, and all the studies in supplements are funded by supplement companies...

im not old or emo what so ever

again, ur an anti-intellectual intellectual, ur just trying to be different, plenty of people believe what i do, im not part of some oppressed community for the sake of it, meanwhile, you are trying to be. you know for a fact that music has degenerated to simple loops of 3 harmonic progesssions for 3 minutes, while crutching on some cocaine-tier dopamine generating percussion; that is by all metrics, less complex, more hedonistic, less sentimental, and therefore in my opinion... INFERIOR. lol. but still you go against your best judgement just for some intellectual mental masturbation of wanting to be wiser than everyone in any situation, so dumb.

[kathisterima]

I'm actually higher rating than u 10k idk why u keep bringing up rating when I intentionally tried to avoid it and I already said I don't consider myself a good player anyways. I don't wanna turn this into a dick-measuring contest but you seem really immature like you don't get the cues Im giving u at all and keep going at it.

[10khitman]

I'm actually higher rating than u 10k idk why u keep bringing up rating when I intentionally tried to avoid it and I already said I don't consider myself a good player anyways. I don't wanna turn this into a dick-measuring contest but you seem really immature like you don't get the cues Im giving u at all and keep going at it.

Fine forget rating, lol, not like I actually play the game anyways.


You think magnus has creativity like tal? ok. you think computers didnt kill creativity? ok. you have no problems with hooker pornstars being the face of chess? ok. you think hikaru is the same level of general intellectual capacity as fischer? ok. you think that fischer playing for a nation, and morphy playing for kings, doesnt show greater character than magnus playing for groupies? ok. agree to disagree, then...

[Born2Mog]

not you specifically, quoting u cuz the whole chain

 shitting on the popular chess players, magnus, the japanese one, the female streamers, the vibe of wanting chess to make you high class, old times were better, "playing a game is art", ect

i made only valid points, sorry that modern society has raped your perception of how things should be, genuinely


u clearly dont know chess, but just think, how many communities have been bastardized in the last few decades? surely you must agree its been a trend, music? art? even science is about money and not real research. what makes you think im being elitist about chess when you dont even know anything about it? you are just assuming because you want to have an opinion on it just for the sake of it, but with no knowledge at all. 

at least kath somewhat knows what hes talking about, even if hes hardstuck 1500

and i couldnt care less about class, i care about the game being run by groupie chasers, spineless, soulleless streamers, and girls who dress like hookers

i was 1400 smth from when i was into that stuff in ~2015?

music is still good

art is still good

science is still fine? much more advanced in some fields and not any intellectually worse than 1970

seems like you're an old incel/emo type who has a problem with anything becoming popular and no longer a refugee for autism because you identify too much with it

"you have a problem with anything becoming popular", rightttt, im thinking of the good old days when music, art, science, and chess was all esoteric activity!


and yea ur right im just being elitist, lil yachty and 50 cent are totally on the same level of complexity as scriabin, and a blank piece of canvas deserves to be in an art museum... and science is totallyyyyy still legitimate, thats why all the studies in soda drinks is funded by soda companies, and all the studies in supplements are funded by supplement companies...

im not old or emo what so ever

again, ur an anti-intellectual intellectual, ur just trying to be different, plenty of people believe what i do, im not part of some oppressed community for the sake of it, meanwhile, you are trying to be. you know for a fact that music has degenerated to simple loops of 3 harmonic progesssions for 3 minutes, while crutching on some cocaine-tier dopamine generating percussion; that is by all metrics, less complex, more hedonistic, less sentimental, and therefore in my opinion... INFERIOR. lol. but still you go against your best judgement just for some intellectual mental masturbation of wanting to be wiser than everyone in any situation, so dumb.

i don't like rap personally but like pop music

you can't listen to Scriabin unless you are sitting down and focused on (only like his piano symphony) it's total apples and oranges. 

i have a feeling you think you got a big dick for knowing that name btw 

science is a big field, i am gonna be a biochemist , I have a feeling you have a mythologized, generalized view of science that never existed

you think big labs should spend their time testing every single jordan tate supplement and T BOOSTER? lol