what's the deal with all the desperate attempts to expose me as a non-lawyer?

[Altruist]

We still love you even if you're a fraud

i want to be loved because i m a one in a million retard who simultaneously has 400k posts on incel forums and has one of the most prestigious jobs there are

[Arrogans]

Btw I wanted to ask you, how much of the job opportunities you get after law school is pure luck/u lacking a certain self marketing trait or something? My sister has a law degree from a pretty prestigious uni, great grades, not weird in any way, but she has a shitty job at a bank working in a law department for that bank, I mean she earns okay money I guess, more than the average person but I would imagine being good at law should at least put you in the upper class while she is upper middle class at best. She is young but not like fresh out of uni young.

[Altruist]

Btw I wanted to ask you, how much of the job opportunities you get after law school is pure luck/u lacking a certain self marketing trait or something? My sister has a law degree from a pretty prestigious uni, great grades, not weird in any way, but she has a shitty job at a bank working in a law department for that bank, I mean she earns okay money I guess, more than the average person but I would imagine being good at law should at least put you in the upper class while she is upper middle class at best. She is young but not like fresh out of uni young.

extremely dependent on the location. i can describe the situation here in details, but how relevant is that info gonna be to someone in bengaluru? it even changes here every couple of years

either way, i know about all kinds of cases, from legit S tier students struggling to get a job to random idgafers who barely graduated, but are now making more than decent money in solid law firms (even those who had 0 connections). nepotism/origin is a huge thing in law, though; if someone studies law, chances are that their parent/s have a firm already

be more specific with your questions if you want a more concrete answer

[RuudVanNistelrooy]

[Altruist]

hated this movie when i realized it's some morbid wannabe-metaphoric shit in the later part

still, this is what i'm teaching people all the time:



most retards, for some reason, think this should be done the other way around, by announcing yourself and peacockmaxxing before you even get anywhere. confidencemaxxers are lower beings

[Arrogans]

extremely dependent on the location. i can describe the situation here in details, but how relevant is that info gonna be to someone in bengaluru? it even changes here every couple of years

either way, i know about all kinds of cases, from legit S tier students struggling to get a job to random idgafers who barely graduated, but are now making more than decent money in solid law firms (even those who had 0 connections). nepotism/origin is a huge thing in law, though; if someone studies law, chances are that their parent/s have a firm already

be more specific with your questions if you want a more concrete answer

Yeah my question was kinda lacking in specifics. It's Sweden, we have 0 lawyers in our family, most of our family does an international job that has been going on for 50+yrs, she pretty much chose the degree just to get away from the family tradition (I respect that but a law degree was a random pick tbh), I assumed a prestigious degree with good grades could at least get you a solid job at some firm with the possibility of getting a higher position, not that it would be a crazy good job but at least there is some room for improvement, from what I have seen her only chance of getting a better position is to just age 10 years and move to another bank. I wouldn't even think about it if she didn't actually complain about her job all the time.

[Altruist]

Yeah my question was kinda lacking in specifics. It's Sweden, we have 0 lawyers in our family, most of our family does an international job that has been going on for 50+yrs, she pretty much chose the degree just to get away from the family tradition (I respect that but a law degree was a random pick tbh), I assumed a prestigious degree with good grades could at least get you a solid job at some firm with the possibility of getting a higher position, not that it would be a crazy good job but at least there is some room for improvement, from what I have seen her only chance of getting a better position is to just age 10 years and move to another bank. I wouldn't even think about it if she didn't actually complain about her job all the time.

yeah, as i said, it's really national job market dependent. specially with law, because it's way less universal than, idk, medicine or engineering (not that the difference in laws between two, say EU, countries is night and day, but it's exactly knowing the specifics of the national legislation that makes you desireable on the labor market).

obviously my example is not too relevant because i earned prodigy rep 1.5 semesters in, but from what i ve noticed generally, two biggest problems for law graduates regarding finding a good job are:
1. reputable firms couldnt care less about you as a human being and only hire young people to exploit them for a couple of years, because they know that they ll easily replace them when they start complaining and asking for a better treatment (way too many people graduating from law schools here every year, idk if that's the case in other eu countries too)
2. reputable firms look for people who can get them clients, because even exquisite legal reasoning skills can only get you so far sometimes. at a higher level lawyering is basically lobbying; everyone knows the law and intricacies of, idk, civil procedure at that level, so it's about what leverage do you have as a person. you knowing or being relatives with people whose friends own large companies >>>> you being some tryhard nerd who memorized obscure laws and CJEU praxis on a certain topic, but needs google maps to find a store in his neighborhood

just yesterday i attended a hearing as a replacement for my friend (lawyers usually ask for this when they have hearings at other courts and know you are gonna be around that day), and the opposing counsel happened to be one of those faggots who just troll and "shitpost" in the first instance procedure because they know that, even if they lose the case, they'll just pull some connections and get the verdict overturned by some of their buddies on II° instance court. the judge was visibly pissed off from the beginning of the hearing because he's been through that a billion times with that specific lawyer

i could write essays and essays about this, obviously, but it's too exhausting in english

[Honest]

One word = jealousy

[Altruist]

super successful thread

[Arrogans]

yeah, as i said, it's really national job market dependent. specially with law, because it's way less universal than, idk, medicine or engineering (not that the difference in laws between two, say EU, countries is night and day, but it's exactly knowing the specifics of the national legislation that makes you desireable on the labor market).

obviously my example is not too relevant because i earned prodigy rep 1.5 semesters in, but from what i ve noticed generally, two biggest problems for law graduates regarding finding a good job are:
1. reputable firms couldnt care less about you as a human being and only hire young people to exploit them for a couple of years, because they know that they ll easily replace them when they start complaining and asking for a better treatment (way too many people graduating from law schools here every year, idk if that's the case in other eu countries too)
2. reputable firms look for people who can get them clients, because even exquisite legal reasoning skills can only get you so far sometimes. at a higher level lawyering is basically lobbying; everyone knows the law and intricacies of, idk, civil procedure at that level, so it's about what leverage do you have as a person. you knowing or being relatives with people whose friends own large companies >>>> you being some tryhard nerd who memorized obscure laws and CJEU praxis on a certain topic, but needs google maps to find a store in his neighborhood

just yesterday i attended a hearing as a replacement for my friend (lawyers usually ask for this when they have hearings at other courts and know you are gonna be around that day), and the opposing counsel happened to be one of those faggots who just troll and "shitpost" in the first instance procedure because they know that, even if they lose the case, they'll just pull some connections and get the verdict overturned by some of their buddies on II° instance court. the judge was visibly pissed off from the beginning of the hearing because he's been through that a billion times with that specific lawyer

i could write essays and essays about this, obviously, but it's too exhausting in english

Hm yeah that makes sense, she was always tryharding studying, I doubt that she even has a single contact from uni at this very moment, I would probably do better than her in that aspect, but it is kinda brutal how much of the whole earning part of life is just nepotism and upbringing.

[Altruist]

Hm yeah that makes sense, she was always tryharding studying, I doubt that she even has a single contact from uni at this very moment, I would probably do better than her in that aspect, but it is kinda brutal how much of the whole earning part of life is just nepotism and upbringing.

it's just that law isn't really that intellectually demanding, so, at that higher level, virtually everyone knows everything they should know. there are no movie-like moments where someone pulls up an obscure statutory provision that changes the course of the entire case, mostly because laws are public and it's really just a handful of them that regulate important issues. ofc, there are infinite bylaws in the positive body of law, but 99.99% of those regulate secondary issues relating to execution of court rulings and similar stuff