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if we made most guns a different color than black do you think liberals would become more comfortable with the existence of guns?
the left generally doesn't go after guns that are brown due to their wood furniture, or stainless steel revolvers with wood grip. the typical mental image they have of "assault weapons" is that of a long black object. is there a psychological component to this that manufacturers can exploit?
from what i understand, guns became black as a result of the treatment processes developed over the years. the newest iteration of which is cerakoting which seems to enable a much greater variety of colors. and the use of polymer on modern weapons also greatly enhances the available options.
what do you think would happen if all manufactures of guns made most guns and gun parts non black? and used "non intimidating" colors and designs?
below example is a hyperbole, but it gets the point across
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i think you're right
firearms would have wider appeal if they're more coquette
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default color of guns shouldn't be black, it should be beige, something less aggressive and dangerous looking
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making guns brightly coloured gives the 'illegal 3d printed ghost gun' feel. wouldnt help
the reason guns with wooden furniture, revolvers, etc are treated with more acceptance is because theyre percieved to be old and therefore less effective
but why would gun manufacturers change to appease groups of people with zero experience of understanding of firearms? if anything, they would market towards people that want a scary/tactical/whatever looking gun
if its to 'make liberals more comfortable', then good luck, because the overton window will continue shifting until all guns are banned
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(10-02-2024, 08:53 PM)Ridiculously Likeable Wrote: making guns brightly coloured gives the 'illegal 3d printed ghost gun' feel. wouldnt help
the reason guns with wooden furniture, revolvers, etc are treated with more acceptance is because theyre percieved to be old and therefore less effective
but why would gun manufacturers change to appease groups of people with zero experience of understanding of firearms? if anything, they would market towards people that want a scary/tactical/whatever looking gun
if its to 'make liberals more comfortable', then good luck, because the overton window will continue shifting until all guns are banned
my whole thing is that i'm getting so tired of guns trying to look scary and intimidating, i would like it so i can pull a gun out and it'll just be treated like any other appliance. we need to make guns truly a common fixture of everyday life
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(10-02-2024, 09:09 PM)fdeshieldplus Wrote: (10-02-2024, 08:53 PM)Ridiculously Likeable Wrote: making guns brightly coloured gives the 'illegal 3d printed ghost gun' feel. wouldnt help
the reason guns with wooden furniture, revolvers, etc are treated with more acceptance is because theyre percieved to be old and therefore less effective
but why would gun manufacturers change to appease groups of people with zero experience of understanding of firearms? if anything, they would market towards people that want a scary/tactical/whatever looking gun
if its to 'make liberals more comfortable', then good luck, because the overton window will continue shifting until all guns are banned
my whole thing is that i'm getting so tired of guns trying to look scary and intimidating, i would like it so i can pull a gun out and it'll just be treated like any other appliance. we need to make guns truly a common fixture of everyday life
most appliances cant kill someone with the pull of a trigger... dont say youd treat someone walking along holding a gun the same way you would with someone walking along holding a screwdriver.
how are guns trying to look scary? glock 19 for example, pretty much as bare bones and functional as any other tool
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(10-02-2024, 10:31 PM)Ridiculously Likeable Wrote: (10-02-2024, 09:09 PM)fdeshieldplus Wrote: (10-02-2024, 08:53 PM)Ridiculously Likeable Wrote: making guns brightly coloured gives the 'illegal 3d printed ghost gun' feel. wouldnt help
the reason guns with wooden furniture, revolvers, etc are treated with more acceptance is because theyre percieved to be old and therefore less effective
but why would gun manufacturers change to appease groups of people with zero experience of understanding of firearms? if anything, they would market towards people that want a scary/tactical/whatever looking gun
if its to 'make liberals more comfortable', then good luck, because the overton window will continue shifting until all guns are banned
my whole thing is that i'm getting so tired of guns trying to look scary and intimidating, i would like it so i can pull a gun out and it'll just be treated like any other appliance. we need to make guns truly a common fixture of everyday life
most appliances cant kill someone with the pull of a trigger... dont say youd treat someone walking along holding a gun the same way you would with someone walking along holding a screwdriver.
how are guns trying to look scary? glock 19 for example, pretty much as bare bones and functional as any other tool
![[Image: s-l1600.jpg]](https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/MOwAAOSwdHlf6Re6/s-l1600.jpg)
don't be obtuse. if that pistol was lime green like a nerf gun it would have a totally different emotional effect
tbf, i dont think them being other colors would be "less scary" but just seem more dark humor or macabre, which is in a way even more scarier. at least with colors like this guns are being honest
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(10-02-2024, 10:37 PM)slop Wrote: (10-02-2024, 10:31 PM)Ridiculously Likeable Wrote: (10-02-2024, 09:09 PM)fdeshieldplus Wrote: (10-02-2024, 08:53 PM)Ridiculously Likeable Wrote: making guns brightly coloured gives the 'illegal 3d printed ghost gun' feel. wouldnt help
the reason guns with wooden furniture, revolvers, etc are treated with more acceptance is because theyre percieved to be old and therefore less effective
but why would gun manufacturers change to appease groups of people with zero experience of understanding of firearms? if anything, they would market towards people that want a scary/tactical/whatever looking gun
if its to 'make liberals more comfortable', then good luck, because the overton window will continue shifting until all guns are banned
my whole thing is that i'm getting so tired of guns trying to look scary and intimidating, i would like it so i can pull a gun out and it'll just be treated like any other appliance. we need to make guns truly a common fixture of everyday life
most appliances cant kill someone with the pull of a trigger... dont say youd treat someone walking along holding a gun the same way you would with someone walking along holding a screwdriver.
how are guns trying to look scary? glock 19 for example, pretty much as bare bones and functional as any other tool
![[Image: s-l1600.jpg]](https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/MOwAAOSwdHlf6Re6/s-l1600.jpg)
don't be obtuse. if that pistol was lime green like a nerf gun it would have a totally different emotional effect
tbf, i dont think them being other colors would be "less scary" but just seem more dark humor or macabre, which is in a way even more scarier. at least with colors like this guns are being honest
your answer is completely retarded.
you just said 'dont be obtuse, if the gun was brightly coloured... it would be even scarier'.
yeah, so my point is completely valid. the gun is extremely plain, simple, and black. other colours would look strange and wouldnt be fitting - generally dangerous tools arent coloured like kids toys.
i said the gun isnt 'trying to look scary'. obviously the bare bones shape isnt. and if youre trying to say the colour is, would you say this is trying to look scary?
obviously not. guns are just 'scary' (to neurotic retards/women) because they are dangerous
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(10-02-2024, 10:50 PM)Ridiculously Likeable Wrote: (10-02-2024, 10:37 PM)slop Wrote: (10-02-2024, 10:31 PM)Ridiculously Likeable Wrote: (10-02-2024, 09:09 PM)fdeshieldplus Wrote: my whole thing is that i'm getting so tired of guns trying to look scary and intimidating, i would like it so i can pull a gun out and it'll just be treated like any other appliance. we need to make guns truly a common fixture of everyday life
most appliances cant kill someone with the pull of a trigger... dont say youd treat someone walking along holding a gun the same way you would with someone walking along holding a screwdriver.
how are guns trying to look scary? glock 19 for example, pretty much as bare bones and functional as any other tool
![[Image: s-l1600.jpg]](https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/MOwAAOSwdHlf6Re6/s-l1600.jpg)
don't be obtuse. if that pistol was lime green like a nerf gun it would have a totally different emotional effect
tbf, i dont think them being other colors would be "less scary" but just seem more dark humor or macabre, which is in a way even more scarier. at least with colors like this guns are being honest
your answer is completely retarded.
you just said 'dont be obtuse, if the gun was brightly coloured... it would be even scarier'.
yeah, so my point is completely valid. the gun is extremely plain, simple, and black. other colours would look strange and wouldnt be fitting - generally dangerous tools arent coloured like kids toys.
i said the gun isnt 'trying to look scary'. obviously the bare bones shape isnt. and if youre trying to say the colour is, would you say this is trying to look scary?
![[Image: STHT60038_2.jpg?resize=530x530]](https://www.stanleytools.com/NAG/PRODUCT/IMAGES/HIRES/STHT60038/STHT60038_2.jpg?resize=530x530)
obviously not. guns are just 'scary' (to neurotic retards/women) because they are dangerous The third sentence was not responding to you in particular
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(10-02-2024, 10:56 PM)slop Wrote: (10-02-2024, 10:50 PM)Ridiculously Likeable Wrote: (10-02-2024, 10:37 PM)slop Wrote: (10-02-2024, 10:31 PM)Ridiculously Likeable Wrote: most appliances cant kill someone with the pull of a trigger... dont say youd treat someone walking along holding a gun the same way you would with someone walking along holding a screwdriver.
how are guns trying to look scary? glock 19 for example, pretty much as bare bones and functional as any other tool
![[Image: s-l1600.jpg]](https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/MOwAAOSwdHlf6Re6/s-l1600.jpg)
don't be obtuse. if that pistol was lime green like a nerf gun it would have a totally different emotional effect
tbf, i dont think them being other colors would be "less scary" but just seem more dark humor or macabre, which is in a way even more scarier. at least with colors like this guns are being honest
your answer is completely retarded.
you just said 'dont be obtuse, if the gun was brightly coloured... it would be even scarier'.
yeah, so my point is completely valid. the gun is extremely plain, simple, and black. other colours would look strange and wouldnt be fitting - generally dangerous tools arent coloured like kids toys.
i said the gun isnt 'trying to look scary'. obviously the bare bones shape isnt. and if youre trying to say the colour is, would you say this is trying to look scary?
![[Image: STHT60038_2.jpg?resize=530x530]](https://www.stanleytools.com/NAG/PRODUCT/IMAGES/HIRES/STHT60038/STHT60038_2.jpg?resize=530x530)
obviously not. guns are just 'scary' (to neurotic retards/women) because they are dangerous The third sentence was not responding to you in particular
makes no difference, if its true then it affects the initial claim. how does it change anything if its not directed at me? youre literally a female-brained retard
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(10-02-2024, 11:03 PM)Ridiculously Likeable Wrote: (10-02-2024, 10:56 PM)slop Wrote: (10-02-2024, 10:50 PM)Ridiculously Likeable Wrote: (10-02-2024, 10:37 PM)slop Wrote: don't be obtuse. if that pistol was lime green like a nerf gun it would have a totally different emotional effect
tbf, i dont think them being other colors would be "less scary" but just seem more dark humor or macabre, which is in a way even more scarier. at least with colors like this guns are being honest
your answer is completely retarded.
you just said 'dont be obtuse, if the gun was brightly coloured... it would be even scarier'.
yeah, so my point is completely valid. the gun is extremely plain, simple, and black. other colours would look strange and wouldnt be fitting - generally dangerous tools arent coloured like kids toys.
i said the gun isnt 'trying to look scary'. obviously the bare bones shape isnt. and if youre trying to say the colour is, would you say this is trying to look scary?
![[Image: STHT60038_2.jpg?resize=530x530]](https://www.stanleytools.com/NAG/PRODUCT/IMAGES/HIRES/STHT60038/STHT60038_2.jpg?resize=530x530)
obviously not. guns are just 'scary' (to neurotic retards/women) because they are dangerous The third sentence was not responding to you in particular
makes no difference, if its true then it affects the initial claim. how does it change anything if its not directed at me?
What is your initial claim? post 4? If anything, it would vaguely be in accord with what you said.
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(10-02-2024, 11:09 PM)slop Wrote: (10-02-2024, 11:03 PM)Ridiculously Likeable Wrote: (10-02-2024, 10:56 PM)slop Wrote: (10-02-2024, 10:50 PM)Ridiculously Likeable Wrote: your answer is completely retarded.
you just said 'dont be obtuse, if the gun was brightly coloured... it would be even scarier'.
yeah, so my point is completely valid. the gun is extremely plain, simple, and black. other colours would look strange and wouldnt be fitting - generally dangerous tools arent coloured like kids toys.
i said the gun isnt 'trying to look scary'. obviously the bare bones shape isnt. and if youre trying to say the colour is, would you say this is trying to look scary?
![[Image: STHT60038_2.jpg?resize=530x530]](https://www.stanleytools.com/NAG/PRODUCT/IMAGES/HIRES/STHT60038/STHT60038_2.jpg?resize=530x530)
obviously not. guns are just 'scary' (to neurotic retards/women) because they are dangerous The third sentence was not responding to you in particular
makes no difference, if its true then it affects the initial claim. how does it change anything if its not directed at me?
What is your initial claim? post 4? If anything, it would vaguely be in accord with what you said.
yeah it is in accord with what i said, which means your sentence starting 'dont be obtuse' makes zero sense
you say:
'don't be obtuse. if that pistol was lime green like a nerf gun it would have a totally different emotional effect'
and then go on to say the 'totally different emotional effect' would be that it would be even scarier, or something. when i had just made a post saying that plain black is just about as standard, non-threatening as a deadly weapon can/should be.
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I agree with Ridiculously Likeable that guns are scary much more because of their functional than aesthetic aspects. Although form and function are never wholly separated. Even the most purely functional appearing weapons have their own kind of aesthetic appeal. Black is a Masc King color and gun owners are mostly Masc Kings so they need to appeal to them. The manufacturers are lucky the materials used to make guns are already Masc King colors so they don't have to spend money making them these colors so they can channel the classically masculine (non)aesthetic of "i don't care how things look like girls do its all about being functional teehee. the guns black and it just kind of happened that way, see how much we don't care about appearances? see? look, don't you see? please look." Can you imagine a 50yo boomer in rural iowa picking up a lavender or pistachio ar15 or glock (assuming for whatever reason this was the default color of the weapon)? or even a "neutral" nonblack color like white? No, because he'd feel like he's being emasculated and that's the worst thing that could happen to him. Regardless of how well the gun works. Especially with guns. Guns are cocks. Changing their color would get you more resistance from gun owners than acceptance from liberalsoycucks, who would think it's some kind of bizarre joke. he wouldn't pick up that gun for the same reason that he makes fun of prettyboys and (semi)deliberately buys clothes that do not fit well, just so he can then go through the ritual of his wife going to her girl friends and being "i need to dress my husband since he can't do it himself teehee." For some Masc King gun owners, if the gun has any kind of attention to detail that seems to go beyond just a pure concern for its functionality, he'll be put off, which ultimately betrays an aesthetic obsession of his own. Regardless of how well it actually functions. I'm being hyperbolic, but you get the point.
this gun could be the most well oiled machine in the world, doing better than all similar firearms by 50% and not come in any other designs or colors, and most gun owners would not lay a finger on it. they wouldn't even pick it up ironically
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colors like that? nah it would make it look 3d printed indeed. maybe csgo way would work jfl
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(10-02-2024, 11:50 PM)slop Wrote: I agree with Ridiculously Likeable that guns are scary much more because of their functional than aesthetic aspects. Although form and function are never wholly separated. Even the most purely functional appearing weapons have their own kind of aesthetic appeal. Black is a Masc King color and gun owners are mostly Masc Kings so they need to appeal to them. The manufacturers are lucky the materials used to make guns are already Masc King colors so they don't have to spend money making them these colors so they can channel the classically masculine (non)aesthetic of "i don't care how things look like girls do its all about being functional teehee. the guns black and it just kind of happened that way, see how much we don't care about appearances? see? look, don't you see? please look." Can you imagine a 50yo boomer in rural iowa picking up a lavender or pistachio ar15 or glock (assuming for whatever reason this was the default color of the weapon)? or even a "neutral" nonblack color like white? No, because he'd feel like he's being emasculated and that's the worst thing that could happen to him. Regardless of how well the gun works. Especially with guns. Guns are cocks. Changing their color would get you more resistance from gun owners than acceptance from liberalsoycucks, who would think it's some kind of bizarre joke. he wouldn't pick up that gun for the same reason that he makes fun of prettyboys and (semi)deliberately buys clothes that do not fit well, just so he can then go through the ritual of his wife going to her girl friends and being "i need to dress my husband since he can't do it himself teehee." For some Masc King gun owners, if the gun has any kind of attention to detail that seems to go beyond just a pure concern for its functionality, he'll be put off, which ultimately betrays an aesthetic obsession of his own. Regardless of how well it actually functions. I'm being hyperbolic, but you get the point.
this gun could be the most well oiled machine in the world, doing better than all similar firearms by 50% and not come in any other designs or colors, and most gun owners would not lay a finger on it. they wouldn't even pick it up ironically
![[Image: cute-unicorns-GPISTOL.jpg?v=1618600100]](https://mightyskins.com/cdn/shop/products/cute-unicorns-GPISTOL.jpg?v=1618600100)
"i don't care how things look like girls do its all about being functional teehee. the guns black and it just kind of happened that way, see how much we don't care about appearances? see? look, don't you see? please look."
why do fags always do this thing where they pretend normal straight men are insecure and need to constantly affirm their masculinity, rather than simply express it (naturally and subconsciously)? yeah, turns out most men dont want to have their weapon in neon pink. shocking, isnt it.
"For some Masc King gun owners, if the gun has any kind of attention to detail that seems to go beyond just a pure concern for its functionality, he'll be put off, which ultimately betrays an aesthetic obsession of his own. Regardless of how well it actually functions."
again, most guys dont want some super-fancy looking gun - so what? we have to say its about their fragile hanging-on-by-a-thread masculinity and their obsessive self image, or something? and im assuming by attention to detail you mean blatant queer stuff like your picture, unless, of course, drug lords and terrorists are more in touch with their feminine side?
a quick search of 'gun engraving' shows that this is hardly a niche market for closeted gun owners. and 'sword engraving' will show a long history. but yeah, most guns aren't going to be expensive showpieces, and for most of their recent history they havent been able to be customised by the buyer much.
sure, there are probably boomers that would rather have a 'real gun' (heavy and wooden) rather than a plastic one,
but the sheer popularity of plastic-furniture guns shows that most people go with the most advantageous option regardless of aesthetic sensibilities
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