18-02-2023, 04:17 PM
(18-02-2023, 04:12 PM)10khitman Wrote:(18-02-2023, 03:46 PM)kathisterima Wrote:(18-02-2023, 02:59 PM)10khitman Wrote:(18-02-2023, 02:02 PM)kathisterima Wrote: no better way than starting off with the strawman
if you think that about chess it is fine, just know that you are not making a correct assessment
engines if anything diversified the game by proving many variations that were previously thought as impossible to play, are actually playable
magnus doesn't have beautiful games? yeah, right...
The reason you don't see people sacrificing 3 pieces and then winning in high level games nowadays isn't that they lack creativity, but simply because the players nowadays are sound enough defensively to be able to hold off at such sharp positions
Chess, especially blitz and rapid, is more interesting than ever because the players are better than ever. Classic has always been pretty lackluster, it personally doesn't interest me. You can't act like Fischer played "creatively" in his World Chess Championship matches. And no, it's just a board game.
Yea sure Fischer's game 6 against Spassky wasnt even creative
I would bet something like... $1000? That ur 1500? You probably watch GothamChess and Agadmator or something, and feel the need to defend the honour of modern era for... whatever reason... maybe because its all you know? Its how you learned this game?
Ok here, forget everything either of us said. Now, look at the Botez twins, most popular chess players in the world, and go ahead and tell me the state of the chess comminity isnt utterly pathetic and corrupted as compared to the era of the soviets... Please... And no, its not just because theyre "pretty females", its because they dress and act like whores, not intelligent "women".
And yes, it is just a board game in and of itself, especially today. But in the old ages, you could be a peasant worshipped by Kings for being good enough at it. Or be a hero of your country. Why? Because it was a great indicator of YOUR INHERENT CREATIVITY, NOT YOUR ABILITY TO MEMORIZE A COMPUTER'S CREATIVITY.
Show me ur above 2k even in online chess and ill shut up.
yeah sure man, all modern players do is memorize 1 billion lines (whereas older players were playing completely off the dome) and whichever humanoid has the best processing hardware wins. And no, I don't watch streamers so these names tell me nothing (it's a completely off-topic subject anyways). You really make this sound like sour grapes now that you told us about your chess elo insecurity.
chess elo insecurity? so i was right about ur rating... lol
if making a lichess account and hitting 1800 with zero theory or training after 1 day, then quitting from boredom is sour grapes, then sure. im not sour about myself, im sour about how retarded most chess players are, im sour that theres humans who spend over a year researching just to stagnate at 1500 then get a superiority complex over their ostensive intelligence. Yes, I hate them, I am sour. I hate the community, I hate how people praise hikaru and magnus for being superhuman geniuses when theyre just good with spacial intelligence and offer nothing else of real intellectual value to the world. Its not a good game anymore, its just another cringe comminity filled with coping autists, and its ruled by superior computers which makes it cucked.
And yes, I do think modern players just analyze 1 billion lines.
(18-02-2023, 04:02 PM)brocode Wrote:(18-02-2023, 01:01 AM)10khitman Wrote: Chess, a game onced loved by gentlemen and geniuses, now a game filled with coping soys and idiot savants.
You can tell the state of a game by its champions. Bobby Fischer: a philosopher, a political theorist, a man of fortitude and belief in himself with no care for the perverted expectations of society; a man who fought over the board for the dignity of his nation. Meanwhile, these days, Hikaru: a libtard fat stoner twitch streamer who can barely string together a conherent sentence outside of chess, and Magnus, a down syndrome looking subhuman, who compares himself to the universe, but is in reality just a drunk who has never played an internationally impactful game of chess in his life; a degenerate who stopped caring about winning, but keeps playing just for groupies. Zero integrity, zero manhood, zero real inteligence. 100% fraud.
This game has deteriorated to a level of degeneracy equal to pornography, honestly, its just mental masturbation but with no positive effect on the world like the sciences or philosophy. Its just: "who can study more, for absolutely zero reason".
wait what? groupies? would you mind elaborating if you don't mind, i dont watch twitch and im not aware of all the tropes happening.
I just play chess irl with buddies or on lichess anonymously. this is very new to me.
also wtf. why would they fraud, chess is a very good analytical game to train ur mind and make urself more disciplined.
Everyone at the top of their sport has groupies, magnus is a world champion of a major community, he doesnt need to be an NBA player to have groupies.
And elab how playing chess will make u more intelligent or wise than just reading a good book. Then again, I know you are more into cunning business than philosophical wisdom, so its different, but frankly I value the latter to a significantly higher degree and therefore dont care at all for whatever cognitive benefits come from playing chess. Besides, the brain makes the player, not vice versa, at least IMO.
Oh you mean how magnus carlsen and other chess grandmaster are slaying chess stacies... ah.
that was always happening though, its nothing new.
A story as old as time.
where there is a mogger, there will be slaying.
Chess improves ur analytical thinking, u think ahead a lot like a lot in chess, all kinds of possible scenarios.
If u lose in chess thats because u made a mistake, its never luck.
its not cunning business, it just helps u lead life, chess is very good for understanding the importance of sacrifices and the chances u have to take (gambits) to win in life.
It's very metaphorical.

