Any good strat games you can rec

[kathisterima]

Could play civ but shogun looks fun. Eu4 has so much potential it's just insane learning curve with what looks like little actual strategic/ tactical play almost like the opposite of chess or what i was looking for

I also hate a game with big learning curve. I'm too old for that shit

In ~2019 I tried transitioning from AoE3 (2500 elo btw) to sc2 and it was just too much shit to learn and I dropped it within 2 weeks.

If you like single player games I could also suggest empire earth II (and I, but II is better)

campaign is top tier fun