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 It's over, you don't have free will
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(14-05-2022, 04:53 PM)Honest Wrote:
(14-05-2022, 04:22 PM)God Emperor Chad Wrote: 1. He didn't say your life will stay 100% the exact same under determinism, it's that free will is more likely to bring change than deterministic outcomes. Determinism literally means your life is more likely to stay the same because there's no free will to change it.

There's no such thing as "free-will". It doesn't and cannot exist. Free-will isn't more likely to bring about anything, because it's a made-up/illogical concept and therefore we cannot use it to predict whether or not something will become more likely

I actually can't believe the nonsense that I'm reading. "Determinism literally means your life is more likely to stay the same because there's no free will to change it." Are you brain dead? "More likely to stay the same"... Wow, that's just such a stupid sentence. Laughable, really.



(14-05-2022, 04:22 PM)God Emperor Chad Wrote: 2. You didn't. You basically said people who need to deny determinism are weak, and it looks like that's probably you because you're coping.

People who deny determinism are weak. But fatalists are weak people who accept determinism, but can't make sense of it. And that's why they deny it in the first place (because they are too stupid to understand how it works, and would get depressed/frustrated trying to figure it out, like mr towncel)

Not being able to talk about something hypothetical because it's hypothetical....??? Is any analogy now false? You should never use analogies in any possible conversation now?

Read your own comment again, is there an argument there that isn't an ad hominem I would expect from a 4 year old? No.

This type of brainleting is literally trolling, even if you're not I should treat it as such because you clearly have a disability or too big of an ego to admit you know nothing.

"Giving up or saying "it's impossible to change" show that you have are an inherently weak and stupid person. Deterministically speaking, you are inherently weak and stupid. That is the fact of the matter and cannot be denied."

That doesn't follow, if there is no free will then I would just be right and not stupid. And weak? Obviously depends on the person but you aren't making any sort of a point or showing how that leads to weakness deterministically. Others would also not have free will either.

Let's say a fatalist is born in britain to a millionaire family, quits highschool at 16 to become a NEET with 10/10 luck, online friends and eats perfect food, but he believes in fatalism... he's now a failure? No, factors outside of his control rigged life in his favor.

I can see it in the scenario that someone's fatalism cripples him and all his emotions are aligned with fatalism, with no impulses contrary to it, meaning that he is prevented from succeeding, but otherwise no. You could still obviously be pre-determined to succeed while believing in fatalism.

A non-fatalist can absolutely be predicted to be a failure, the fact that he believes he has free will doesn't mean I can't say that he will fail beyond a reasonable doubt. Did you mean to type something else?
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RE: It's over, you don't have free will - by God Emperor Chad - 14-05-2022, 06:12 PM

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