I'm reading a Islamic book refuting jesus divinity

[Eesharebba]

Idk what to believe 

I will look hard into philosophy and decide once and for all

How can God blame us for choosing wrong things when we have deficient intellects?

I just want to go to the kingdom of heaven or jannah or Kailasa or dewachen or whatever is a good afterlife

But how do I know the truth for sure?

Here's the book (al radd al jamil)it's a great read using gospel and philosophical arguments from the great Sufi and mutakallim imam abu hamid https://openmaktaba.com/?smd_process_download=1&download_id=4920

[Eesharebba]

@Bookist

[Mercury]

the scriptures are coded

[Eesharebba]

@ he is Iranian Sunni like you @

[Eesharebba]

Imam al ghazali is respected by william lane craig

[Bookist]

@ he is Iranian Sunni like you @

Join Islam bro. You need to listen to recitings of someone reading quran in arabic. Dont you hear how beautiful that sounds bro?

[Eesharebba]

@ he is Iranian Sunni like you @

Join Islam bro. You need to listen to recitings of someone reading quran in arabic. Dont you hear how beautiful that sounds bro?

I actually repented to ALLAHU and said my SHAHADA after reading the whole book,I just need to understand the arguments more in depth.the author has a excellent knowledge of christian theology,philosophy and scriptures.

I just need to understand this philosophy stuff more,so I can finally make a choice and stick with it.

I do feel better as a muslim than a christian,maybe because trinitarian christianity is against fitrah?

I'm growing my beard out and gonna pray INSHALLAHU.

[Eesharebba]

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I knew that absolute pussy slayer Gigachad Hunk quran recitor(ibn hisham al arabi),hes my favorite after ahmed  khedr.

THAT NIGGA CAN EASILY GET 4 BEAUTIFUL WIVES OF DIFFERENT RACES LIKE MY PLAN LOL

[Eesharebba]

@ he is Iranian Sunni like you @

Join Islam bro. You need to listen to recitings of someone reading quran in arabic. Dont you hear how beautiful that sounds bro?

THIS IS GORGEOUS BRO




ARABIC IS MOST BEAUTIFUL LANGUAGE

[Noonz]

[Eesharebba]

i have brain fog bhai I CANT THINK CLEARLY AND HAVE LOW COGNITIVE ABILITY


PRAY AYAT KAREEM FOR ME AND AFTER MAKE DUA FOR ME TO BE GUIDED(ANY DUA PRAYED AFTER AYAT KAREEM IS ANSWERED BY ALLAH)

[Eesharebba]

SAYS THE TYRANT KABBALIST JEW FREEMASON THAT WAS CAUGHT WEARING TEFILLIN AND A SHAWL PRAYING IN HIS OLD PHOTOS.

ATHEISTS ARE UTTER RETARDS

GOD IS A LOGICALLY PROVEN BEING

[Eesharebba]

@


LETS BECOME IMAMS AND MUTAKALLIMEEN TOGETHER BRO


WE WILL BECOME BIG IN THE MUSLIM COMMUNTIY AND GET 4 WIVES OF DIFFERENT RACES EACH ;)

THATS MY DREAM

[Eesharebba]

these are interesting quotes against the miaphysites(will post against chalcedonians later)

Although they try to establish a connective relationship between the essence
of God and that of Jesus, on him be peace, like the connective relationship
between the soul and the body they cannot achieve it. They claim to establish
it by mere possibility without producing an argument leading to what they
suppose, so how can they claim to establish the existence of that which cannot
possibly exist?
The proof of the impossibility of this is, if the existence of every composite
reality depends upon the existence of its parts and its particular composition,
then in this case it would be dependent, in its existence, on the existence of its
parts and each part of it would depend on its being a certain part with certain
characteristics of being connected to other parts. The supposition is that one
part of this reality is the divinity and its other part is the humanity, and this would require for the divinity the attribute of being a part and a part being
connected to it in order to achieve the composition already described.
Therefore, the divinity is in need of the human being, and that is impossible,
clearly false. However, it may not be intended by ‘the composition’, a composition
of mixture or union or proximity, but if it is intended to be something
like that, it is an even more profoundly corrupt notion. Perhaps it was reported
by some of the foolish among them that the reality of this composition is not
known, and the reply to them should be that contradicting sound reason and
relying on something irrational is foolishness and absence of intelligence.
Then we also say concerning the principle: if God, when he created the
humanity, appeared in it, and united with it, then indeed an attribute newly
occurred in him after he created it, which is his union with it and his appearing
in it. Then we say: if this attribute is a necessary existent, it is impossible for it to
be described as contingent, and if it is a possible existent, it is impossible for it to
be an attribute of the Creator because all attributes of the Creator are necessary
existents. This is because what requires its non-existence to be impossible is a
necessary existent, and it is clearly impossible that the attributes of God entail
non-existence.
If it is said that if this is required, then the creation of the world is impossible,
since the creation of just one created thing is impossible. This is because if God,
exalted and glorious, created one created thing, an attribute would have newly
occurred in him, and he would be circumscribed by his creation. Therefore,
the above mentioned impossibility is entailed. The reply is that this is not at all
entailed because the meaning of the saying ‘God is Creator’ is his ordaining of
the creation in eternity and this attribute is established in him eternally. When
he created a created thing, then his knowledge of its existence in the time of its
creation, and also the power of producing it in that time were both established
eternally.57 Therefore the only new occurrence is its existence, and its existence
is not an attribute existing in the essence of God, may his name be glorified, but
is in the essence of the created thing. Concerning relating existence to the effect
of the power in performing an action in the moment of its existence, surely this
is in the category of relations and attachments, and relations and attachments
are not in the category of existence, like ‘above and below’, and ‘fatherhood
and sonship’. This notion is clear and perceivable, contrary to what has been mentioned above, because if he united with the humanity, this union would be
an attribute added to his essence. May God be exalted far above that.
Therefore if the existence of this reality is supposed, then the teaching
that it is a third reality different from both the divinity and the humanity,
characterised by all that is necessary to each of them of the characteristics
of the human and its requirements and attributes with respect to being a
human being, and what is necessary to God, and what is impossible for him,
concerning the attributes with respect to being God, is absurd speech and
there is no hope for anyone in proving it. It is evident that something is only
qualified by an attribute if this description is possible. If that is established,
it is not acceptable that the properties of the divinity and the properties of
the humanity come together in this reality. This is because all of the attributes
necessary to the divinity and others which are peculiar to it with respect to
being divine and which distinguish it from anything else, if they are established
in the third reality would be the divinity itself. The same could be said about
the humanity, because it shares with the two of them in all necessities of each,
and all requirements and attributes with respect to being divine and human,
according to what has been mentioned above.

Then if a distinction is established, and this is indeed the case, there would
be established in this entity all the characteristics of the human being essential
to his reality, and all non-essential distinctive characteristics, along with all that
it is supposed to be a reality distinct from the reality of the human being. This
is clearly impossible. Whenever all the fixed essentials of the human being and
all his established non-essentials with respect to being human are found in a
thing they necessitate the human reality in that thing. At the same time they
exclude what is different, otherwise these things would not be established in
it with respect to being human and indeed we must suppose it to be like that.
This is an absurd argument.
Moreover, if the reality is perfectly divine then the characteristics of perfect
divinity are established in it and among the attributes of perfect divinity are,
that it is not composed of itself and of the humanity because it would entail that
the essence of God needs the human being for its existence and be preceded
by him and also by (the reality) itself. If a sect does not recognise a clear error
such as this then ‘the griffon of the west’ must be true.58

If it is said that this only follows when we ascribe to the reality all attributes
and other qualities that are necessary to the divinity, and likewise we should
say about the humanity with respect to the reality; however, when we apply to
both the humanity and the divinity all of the rules and attributes established
before the composition, then why do you say that is unacceptable?
The reply is, if the predicates of all that is necessary to each of them with
respect to being divine and human are considered apart from the composition,
it is impossible to apply them to the third reality, because this would be applying
a rule about a single unit being a separate entity. But if they are considered
in the composition, it is impossible that all of them remain after the composition,
because if all that is required for each of the separate entities, with respect
to being what they are, remained after being composed, surely they would all be
established in the third reality. At this point the absurdity already mentioned
is unavoidable, and this is that the third reality would be itself the divinity and
itself the humanity, sharing with them all that is required for each of them of
attributes and other qualities with respect to being God and with respect to
being a human being. So it is finally established by what we have discussed
that it is impossible to attribute to it (the third reality) all that is required for
both the divinity and the humanity, whether we consider each of them in the
composition or separated from it.
This discussion requires subtle thought to be understood. Yet one of them
who is ignorant about the composition believes that the escape from this grave
difficulty is easy, for he supposes that he can get rid of these difficulties by
analogies which are not suitable for this key question. He says, it is established
that a human being is characterised by corporality, sensation, growth,
changeability, passing away, and being in a location; and also established are,
characterising him by attributes of speech, perception of the general and the
particular, understanding, and other things which must be referred to the soul.
These characteristics can only be considered if we look at the animal body with
respect to being itself and also at the soul with respect to being itself.
This insanity is very far removed from what we have been discussing,
because they believe that the third reality is a perfect human being and perfect
God, and that all that is established in the human being is established in
it, and likewise what is said about God. Therefore, there must be an analogy
suitable for this very belief, but that will only operate when it is established
that it is correct to say of the human being that he is abstract, without a body,
not dwelling in a body, not in a location, that he is eternal, and immortal, for
they are philosophers in this question. Therefore, they establish in him what is
established in the soul, with respect to being a soul, and then they also attribute
to him the opposite of that, what is established in the animal body, with respect

to being a body, for it is said that he is of a natural species found similarly in
different individuals, in definition and reality, and yet that he is but a part of
the species, and that he is located, movable, and subject to corruption. It is my
opinion that whoever is impudent enough to establish in the third reality what
he has established of this absurdity is not far from rejecting logical necessity,
by adhering to the source of his thinking, no matter how contradictory. How
amazing is this stupidity over such obvious issues. If this is believed despite the
knowledge of its falsehood then how profound is the ignorance!
It may be said that all of this would follow if the composition of which we
speak is a composition of mixture and blending, yet we do not say that. We
mean by the composition of this reality a spiritual composition whose occurrence
results from a spiritual connection between the divinity and the humanity.
We have already clearly stated that this connection is invalid for what they
are trying to achieve, whether the relationship is general or restricted.
This teaching about the third reality described above is ascribed to the
opinion of the Jacobites.

[Ildefonso Orozco y Peredriguez]

brutal

imagine even getting owned by someone as low iq as stalin