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i think women make zero effort to talk to me, its like i have to do all the work to talk to them, and im not into talking a lot
so fuck that
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i think women make zero effort to talk to me, its like i have to do all the work to talk to them, and im not into talking a lot
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That's a frustrating place to be — feeling like you're always the one initiating while getting little in return. You're not alone in that experience, either. A lot of guys feel like they’re carrying the conversational load, especially early on.
Here are a few thoughts that might help you unpack this:
💬 1. Social norms still play a big role
Whether it's fair or not, in many dating and social dynamics, men are still expected to initiate — especially early. Some women might be interested but still wait for the guy to make the first move because that’s what they’re used to or what they’ve been taught is "normal."
🧍♂️ 2. If you're not into talking a lot… that can be a signal too
If you're naturally quieter or more reserved, that can sometimes make it harder for people (women included) to feel like there's space to engage. That doesn't mean you're doing anything wrong — just that people might interpret your quietness as disinterest or unapproachability.
That doesn't mean you have to force being chatty, but maybe focus on quality over quantity — a few good comments or questions can go a long way.
🪞3. Are you meeting the right kind of people?
If you’re always finding yourself with women who don’t reciprocate effort, it might say more about where or how you're meeting them than about women in general. Some people are just passive — or not genuinely interested — and it's okay to move on rather than chase that energy.
🛠️ What can you do about it?
Look for mutual energy early. If someone isn't giving you at least some engagement back, you don’t have to keep trying.
Shift environments. Sometimes changing the context (e.g., hobby groups, low-key events, or smaller social scenes) brings out different types of people who are more your pace.
Be direct but low-pressure. Something like, “I’m not big on small talk — but I’m glad we’re talking,” can show interest without needing to be super chatty.
Let go faster. If you're always pulling the weight in a convo, that might be a red flag. You don’t owe anyone ongoing attention if they’re not showing interest too.
Would it help to talk through how some recent interactions have gone? I could help you read the signals you're seeing — or not seeing.