Rights don't exist.

[Idec]

A "right" to do something is a man-made construct, you are allowed to do something without punishment? Okay what tells you that?

Where is the right physically? 

Can you show me a right Infront of me right now? 

If I can take your right with force that right is only has real as the paper it is written on. Its only held as being true when men are guarding it, but if those men die and your enemies take hold of your society and don't hold to those rights and oppress you, then you have no rights. You don't deserve anything, stay humble.

[Altruist]

just like the point of this thread

[Idec]

just like the point of this thread

[Busty Doll]

I'm losing faith in Institutions lately.

Normally you would expect "I'm writing a letter to The Secretary, so he will do his job."

But it seems clerks are just people, so they say: "Yo, I just chatted with Lefterio13 on Bookism, so I will rule for him even though the law says otherwise. KEK!"

[Honest]

wrong. 

A "right" to do something is a man-made construct, you are allowed to do something without punishment? Okay what tells you that?

anyone can tell me this. examples of people who tell me this are institutions of the state, lawyers, and political activists 

Where is the right physically? 

rights are witnessed in physical interactions between the state and citizens

Can you show me a right Infront of me right now? 

yes, you're witnessing rights now: you're exercising your right to freedom of expression, which is the ability to communicate without government interference

1. If I can take your right with force that right is only has real as the paper it is written on.
2. Its only held as being true when men are guarding it, but if those men die and your enemies take hold of your society and don't hold to those rights and oppress you, then you have no rights.
3. You don't deserve anything,
3.5 stay humble.

1. i can take your phone by force. does that mean that phones aren't real?
2. rights can be given, held, or lost, just like anything else that exists
3. Correct. 
3.5. Does not follow

[Idec]

wrong. 


anyone can tell me this. examples of people who tell me this are institutions of the state, lawyers, and political activists 


rights are witnessed in physical interactions between the state and citizens


yes, you're witnessing rights now: you're exercising your right to freedom of expression, which is the ability to communicate without government interference


1. i can take your phone by force. does that mean that phones aren't real?
2. rights can be given, held, or lost, just like anything else that exists
3. Correct. 
3.5. Does not follow

Nice admission that its society that tells you rights exist. saying rights are witnessed therefore it is true is not making the distinction between thing and action, this is like saying a clock is time itself. And physical phones are not the same as a non physical concept like rights. "rights can be given, held, or lost, just like anything else that exists" A right is defined as a entitlement to do something or act in a certain way, and if that doesn't hold true 100% of the time its a falsehood, like money. These things only exist as long as people believe they do, if Armageddon happened tomorrow and all civilization was wiped out but there were still humans, the concept of rights would not hold true unlike the concept of truth which is never changing. When I say something exists i mean something that will always hold true and happen, like death. And the last thing about staying humble is because its just always good to not get over your own head, not saying you have to be a cuck but its good to have a balance imo.

[machinelves]

stoopid

[Honest]

When I say something exists i mean something that will always hold true and happen, like death.

so wild vaquita porpoises dont exist because theyll be extinct in 25 years?



your copout definition is retarded for other reasons, seeing as it's widely understood that rights can be violated.

[eldajaal1488]

i mean yeah they are socially made, if u dont like it go to somalia. or go unabomber to nearest forest

[Idec]

so wild vaquita porpoises dont exist because theyll be extinct in 25 years?



your copout definition is retarded for other reasons, seeing as it's widely understood that rights can be violated.

"vaquita porpoises" ah yes very nice mental masturbation my friend, just say "a animal species". 

Also when i mean always I mean universal concepts, like truth, and death as a universal concept, not something dying there for if it cant die it doesn't exist. But that things will always die. in every view. Christian, Atheist, Evolution, Heliocentric, and Geocentric.

[Busty Doll]

I think I'm serving a youthful porpoise

[ΛΟΓΟΣ]

social 'constructs' are real boyo

[MysteriousWeeb420]

OP in the running for lowest IQ user

[Blackpillcel]

An example of that is how restraining orders against stalkers, wife beaters etc increase the chances of the victim getting murdered because the perpetrator feels humiliated by the "removal of his rights" and escalates. It's all BS so that the redditor NPCs have some illusion of control over their lives.

[fdeshieldplus]

op won the debate