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(19-11-2022, 12:30 AM)lawahh19/dwohhgang Wrote: MOVING AWAY from jaw surgery is litrally good because how fucking risky jaw surgery is, ppl with tmj only get it as last resort after doing conservative mewing rip off treatments like myofunctional theraphy and some other things
not risky at all (unless you get a le fort 2/3 which nobody does anyway)
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(19-11-2022, 01:09 AM)зайчик Wrote: (19-11-2022, 12:30 AM)lawahh19/dwohhgang Wrote: MOVING AWAY from jaw surgery is litrally good because how fucking risky jaw surgery is, ppl with tmj only get it as last resort after doing conservative mewing rip off treatments like myofunctional theraphy and some other things
not risky at all (unless you get a le fort 2/3 which nobody does anyway)
Orthognathic surgery is the surgery being discussed
Common complications which may occur in orthognathic surgery include vascular disease, temporomandibular joints (TMJ) problems, nerve damage, infection, bone necrosis, periodontal disease, vision impairment, hearing problems, hair loss, and neuropsychiatric problems. Rarely complications could be fatal.
The rate of complications after orthognathic surgery is more than 40%; therefore, it is important that patients receive a detailed explanation ...
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(19-11-2022, 01:16 AM)lawahh19/dwohhgang Wrote: (19-11-2022, 01:09 AM)зайчик Wrote: (19-11-2022, 12:30 AM)lawahh19/dwohhgang Wrote: MOVING AWAY from jaw surgery is litrally good because how fucking risky jaw surgery is, ppl with tmj only get it as last resort after doing conservative mewing rip off treatments like myofunctional theraphy and some other things
not risky at all (unless you get a le fort 2/3 which nobody does anyway)
Orthognathic surgery is the surgery being discussed
Common complications which may occur in orthognathic surgery include vascular disease, temporomandibular joints (TMJ) problems, nerve damage, infection, bone necrosis, periodontal disease, vision impairment, hearing problems, hair loss, and neuropsychiatric problems. Rarely complications could be fatal.
The rate of complications after orthognathic surgery is more than 40%; therefore, it is important that patients receive a detailed explanation ...
vision impairment, hearing problems and hair loss?) from the orthognathic surgery that is performed through the mouth?))
the common complications are not common at all and are extremely overstated
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(19-11-2022, 01:26 AM)зайчик Wrote: (19-11-2022, 01:16 AM)lawahh19/dwohhgang Wrote: (19-11-2022, 01:09 AM)зайчик Wrote: (19-11-2022, 12:30 AM)lawahh19/dwohhgang Wrote: MOVING AWAY from jaw surgery is litrally good because how fucking risky jaw surgery is, ppl with tmj only get it as last resort after doing conservative mewing rip off treatments like myofunctional theraphy and some other things
not risky at all (unless you get a le fort 2/3 which nobody does anyway)
Orthognathic surgery is the surgery being discussed
Common complications which may occur in orthognathic surgery include vascular disease, temporomandibular joints (TMJ) problems, nerve damage, infection, bone necrosis, periodontal disease, vision impairment, hearing problems, hair loss, and neuropsychiatric problems. Rarely complications could be fatal.
The rate of complications after orthognathic surgery is more than 40%; therefore, it is important that patients receive a detailed explanation ...
vision impairment, hearing problems and hair loss?) from the orthognathic surgery that is performed through the mouth?))
the common complications are not common at all and are extremely overstated
40% have a complication, 40% do not die so of course some complications are diffrent
the ear and jaw joint are for one very connected anyone with tmj knoweldge knows this
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(19-11-2022, 01:30 AM)lawahh19/dwohhgang Wrote: (19-11-2022, 01:26 AM)зайчик Wrote: (19-11-2022, 01:16 AM)lawahh19/dwohhgang Wrote: (19-11-2022, 01:09 AM)зайчик Wrote: not risky at all (unless you get a le fort 2/3 which nobody does anyway)
Orthognathic surgery is the surgery being discussed
Common complications which may occur in orthognathic surgery include vascular disease, temporomandibular joints (TMJ) problems, nerve damage, infection, bone necrosis, periodontal disease, vision impairment, hearing problems, hair loss, and neuropsychiatric problems. Rarely complications could be fatal.
The rate of complications after orthognathic surgery is more than 40%; therefore, it is important that patients receive a detailed explanation ...
vision impairment, hearing problems and hair loss?) from the orthognathic surgery that is performed through the mouth?))
the common complications are not common at all and are extremely overstated
40% have a complication, 40% do not die so of course some complications are diffrent
the ear and jaw joint are for one very connected anyone with tmj knoweldge knows this
where did you get those numbers?
most of the complications are probably temporary numbness
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(19-11-2022, 01:38 AM)зайчик Wrote: (19-11-2022, 01:30 AM)lawahh19/dwohhgang Wrote: (19-11-2022, 01:26 AM)зайчик Wrote: (19-11-2022, 01:16 AM)lawahh19/dwohhgang Wrote: Orthognathic surgery is the surgery being discussed
Common complications which may occur in orthognathic surgery include vascular disease, temporomandibular joints (TMJ) problems, nerve damage, infection, bone necrosis, periodontal disease, vision impairment, hearing problems, hair loss, and neuropsychiatric problems. Rarely complications could be fatal.
The rate of complications after orthognathic surgery is more than 40%; therefore, it is important that patients receive a detailed explanation ...
vision impairment, hearing problems and hair loss?) from the orthognathic surgery that is performed through the mouth?))
the common complications are not common at all and are extremely overstated
40% have a complication, 40% do not die so of course some complications are diffrent
the ear and jaw joint are for one very connected anyone with tmj knoweldge knows this
where did you get those numbers?
most of the complications are probably temporary numbness i got them from google
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5342970/
cutting your face up is a bad idea and we should move toward prevention and more root cause treatments
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(19-11-2022, 01:42 AM)lawahh19/dwohhgang Wrote: (19-11-2022, 01:38 AM)зайчик Wrote: (19-11-2022, 01:30 AM)lawahh19/dwohhgang Wrote: (19-11-2022, 01:26 AM)зайчик Wrote: vision impairment, hearing problems and hair loss?) from the orthognathic surgery that is performed through the mouth?))
the common complications are not common at all and are extremely overstated
40% have a complication, 40% do not die so of course some complications are diffrent
the ear and jaw joint are for one very connected anyone with tmj knoweldge knows this
where did you get those numbers?
most of the complications are probably temporary numbness i got them from google
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5342970/
cutting your face up is a bad idea and we should move toward prevention and more root cause treatments
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(19-11-2022, 01:49 AM)зайчик Wrote: (19-11-2022, 01:42 AM)lawahh19/dwohhgang Wrote: (19-11-2022, 01:38 AM)зайчик Wrote: (19-11-2022, 01:30 AM)lawahh19/dwohhgang Wrote: 40% have a complication, 40% do not die so of course some complications are diffrent
the ear and jaw joint are for one very connected anyone with tmj knoweldge knows this
where did you get those numbers?
most of the complications are probably temporary numbness i got them from google
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5342970/
cutting your face up is a bad idea and we should move toward prevention and more root cause treatments
1998-2009
outdated!
a study doesnt have tobe posted 2 seconds ago to not be oiutdated
complications are real and avoiding surgery for other treatments is best thats as far as my claims go
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(19-11-2022, 01:53 AM)lawahh19/dwohhgang Wrote: (19-11-2022, 01:49 AM)зайчик Wrote: (19-11-2022, 01:42 AM)lawahh19/dwohhgang Wrote: (19-11-2022, 01:38 AM)зайчик Wrote: where did you get those numbers?
most of the complications are probably temporary numbness i got them from google
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5342970/
cutting your face up is a bad idea and we should move toward prevention and more root cause treatments
1998-2009
outdated!
a study doesnt have tobe posted 2 seconds ago to not be oiutdated
complications are real and avoiding surgery for other treatments is best thats as far as my claims go
surgery is the only way
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(19-11-2022, 01:55 AM)зайчик Wrote: (19-11-2022, 01:53 AM)lawahh19/dwohhgang Wrote: (19-11-2022, 01:49 AM)зайчик Wrote: (19-11-2022, 01:42 AM)lawahh19/dwohhgang Wrote: i got them from google
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5342970/
cutting your face up is a bad idea and we should move toward prevention and more root cause treatments
1998-2009
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a study doesnt have tobe posted 2 seconds ago to not be oiutdated
complications are real and avoiding surgery for other treatments is best thats as far as my claims go
surgery is the only way for some cases that could have been prevented and wasnt? yes
but we should prevent it so ppl like u dont get sleep apena bad looks etc
on another note how you sit can cut of your blood flow to your head so proper posture is imporant if u had sleep apnea and that caused you depression
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(19-11-2022, 02:04 AM)lawahh19/dwohhgang Wrote: (19-11-2022, 01:55 AM)зайчик Wrote: (19-11-2022, 01:53 AM)lawahh19/dwohhgang Wrote: (19-11-2022, 01:49 AM)зайчик Wrote: 1998-2009
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a study doesnt have tobe posted 2 seconds ago to not be oiutdated
complications are real and avoiding surgery for other treatments is best thats as far as my claims go
surgery is the only way for some cases that could have been prevented and wasnt? yes
but we should prevent it so ppl like u dont get sleep apena bad looks etc
on another note how you sit can cut of your blood flow to your head so proper posture is imporant if u had sleep apnea and that caused you depression
it's not preventable
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(19-11-2022, 02:06 AM)зайчик Wrote: (19-11-2022, 02:04 AM)lawahh19/dwohhgang Wrote: (19-11-2022, 01:55 AM)зайчик Wrote: (19-11-2022, 01:53 AM)lawahh19/dwohhgang Wrote: a study doesnt have tobe posted 2 seconds ago to not be oiutdated
complications are real and avoiding surgery for other treatments is best thats as far as my claims go
surgery is the only way for some cases that could have been prevented and wasnt? yes
but we should prevent it so ppl like u dont get sleep apena bad looks etc
on another note how you sit can cut of your blood flow to your head so proper posture is imporant if u had sleep apnea and that caused you depression
it's not preventable thats why ur mdoern subumhan problems like sleep apnea was at 0% before agriculture
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(19-11-2022, 02:14 AM)lawahh19/dwohhgang Wrote: (19-11-2022, 02:06 AM)зайчик Wrote: (19-11-2022, 02:04 AM)lawahh19/dwohhgang Wrote: (19-11-2022, 01:55 AM)зайчик Wrote: surgery is the only way for some cases that could have been prevented and wasnt? yes
but we should prevent it so ppl like u dont get sleep apena bad looks etc
on another note how you sit can cut of your blood flow to your head so proper posture is imporant if u had sleep apnea and that caused you depression
it's not preventable thats why ur mdoern subumhan problems like sleep apnea was at 0% before agriculture
i'm not certain whether i even had it tbh because not tested
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(19-11-2022, 02:17 AM)зайчик Wrote: (19-11-2022, 02:14 AM)lawahh19/dwohhgang Wrote: (19-11-2022, 02:06 AM)зайчик Wrote: (19-11-2022, 02:04 AM)lawahh19/dwohhgang Wrote: for some cases that could have been prevented and wasnt? yes
but we should prevent it so ppl like u dont get sleep apena bad looks etc
on another note how you sit can cut of your blood flow to your head so proper posture is imporant if u had sleep apnea and that caused you depression
it's not preventable thats why ur mdoern subumhan problems like sleep apnea was at 0% before agriculture
i'm not certain whether i even had it tbh because not tested
testing sleep apnea can be impossible and if u think u have it u probably have it and u check out
im convinced u had it and btw it can remove 10 eyars of ur life and 10 iq points and for you it almost removed 60 years considering ur suicide plans that i hope u discontineud
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(19-11-2022, 12:18 AM)kathisterima Wrote: again, do you have any evidence for this shit? Because I've read on PSL and JSF and GWF that he charges very high amounts for consultations to people who are interested in aesthetic changes (because that's what he advertises) and of course he can not help them. Basically fooled people into believing he is some high-end PS alternative with his silly "orthotropic" devices. What forum does "GWF" stand for?
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