Who read 'The Forest Passage' by Ernst Jünger?

[Dreckssau]

It's short, but dense and hard to read. I have yet to completely make sense of it. It's about rejecting the system, non-conformity, etc...

Ted K. read it apperantly.

Jünger was a chad, who lived to 102 and his WW1 heroism is well known.

[Ropium]

Sounds like escapist militiaman.fantasy. the problem with running away into the forest is that eventually the machine aka the leviathan is going to drop browns there too.

[Dreckssau]

Sounds like escapist militiaman.fantasy. the problem with running away into the forest is that eventually the machine aka the leviathan is going to drop browns there too.

He doesn't say you need to literally escape into the woods. It's about the state of mind.

[Ropium]

That's biology denialism. We are hardwired to seek environments which are conducive to our survival. As environment can inform our thoughts, being in an unsuitable environment creates tensions and traumas that harm our reproductive success and general wellbeing. I believe he is coping because he has not foreseen the modern environment. In his time he can walk away from town and be immersed in wild inside of 5 minutes. And where in his mind can he start a family and reproduce? Asceticism is cope

[Ropium]

Junger debunked

[B00X]

never read it

[eldajaal1488]

He doesn't say you need to literally escape into the woods. It's about the state of mind.

max striner? original cynism? is it about doing whatever u want or not wanting in first place?
i havent read these either but general idea?

[eldajaal1488]

he sounds like schizo tbh, forest isnt meant to be taken literally i think but rather detaching urself from social norms. instead of going to actual forest u go into mental ,,forest'' while living in world just normally

basically striner but more schizo

[hitlersblackedwaifu]

have you? because I feel like you bring up too many book titles for someone that gives major slapdasher vibes.

[B00X]

I'll consider reading out of respect to you

[Dreckssau]

have you? because I feel like you bring up too many book titles for someone that gives major slapdasher vibes.

I have not completed it, but I've read it very carefully. You could easily read it in one day, without understanding much of it, unless you're a super genius or lying.

[Dreckssau]

he sounds like schizo tbh, forest isnt meant to be taken literally i think but rather detaching urself from social norms. instead of going to actual forest u go into mental ,,forest'' while living in world just normally

basically striner but more schizo

No, it is about the possibility of resistance, in a state that allows for very little resistance. It was written shorty after the fall of the nazis, but could apply to any system, where the installed forms of opposition are a sham, such as in modern western democracy, where voting is mostly meaningless.

[Honest]

Sounds like escapist militiaman.fantasy. the problem with running away into the forest is that eventually the machine aka the leviathan is going to drop browns there too.

That's biology denialism. We are hardwired to seek environments which are conducive to our survival. As environment can inform our thoughts, being in an unsuitable environment creates tensions and traumas that harm our reproductive success and general wellbeing. I believe he is coping because he has not foreseen the modern environment. In his time he can walk away from town and be immersed in wild inside of 5 minutes. And where in his mind can he start a family and reproduce? Asceticism is cope

youre the epitome of the modern mass-man who is simultaneously highly-opinionated and utterly ignorant.

[bluerose]

youre the epitome of the modern mass-man who is simultaneously highly-opinionated and utterly ignorant.

based papa magnifat, more responses like dis from u pls, thanks

[Honest]

finished reading it last night.

a couple of years ago, i had an idea that was quite similar to the core theme of the forest rebel, so the description of the book was highly appealing. however, reading it made me remember why i abandoned the idea: 

• Junger's forest rebel is far too aggressive, even somewhat hysterical. his entire worldview revolves around a fear of the state, and so he exists reactively, not actively. 
  
• his attempts to overcome the fear of death is driven by the fear of death - so again, reactive and fear-based. unhealthy mindset.
  

and i'm not a big fan of Junger's mysticism.
but still, i liked a lot of it. i very much sympathise with his stance on bureaucracy, self-sufficiency, healthcare, constitutional rights, right to bear arms, and resoluteness.

as i've mentioned, my main criticism is that he focuses too much on the tyranny of the state (although this is very understandable, as he'd just lived under the nazis), which is reactive and fear-based. but it seems that Junger also thought this, and later abandoned the Forestrebel for the Anarch.

if you're interested in societal criticisms from that period, then Ortega y Gasset's 'Revolt of the Masses' is very good (Junger's idea of the Worker seems less enduring than Ortega's Mass Man). and Heidegger (in Being and Time) and Nietzsche are both very good for their discussions of a less reactive sort of resoluteness.