why is white culture so superior

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Also, I find Arthur Kwon Lee, the pan-faced, coin slot eyed gook (who believes he's good looking, posting blackball content) extremely cringe by the way. Talking about an East Asian-European alliance lmfao. 

https://imgur.com/a/DGkTbuo

[Asian Male]

[M1NT]

I’ve always said I find the Anglo-white way of life to be superior. Otherwise, I’d be living in Asia or anywhere else, same as @Thailuan Dang @Asian Male  who’s constantly delaying and making excuses on how why he’s not already in Ho Chi Minh City. That said, I’m not going to actively go out of my way to promote white people and follow the ridiculous motion that other races should show gratitude to white folks. On how they should be praised. For what? You didn’t build shit, maybe your ancestors did but even then, most of your ancestors also didn’t do shit. It’s always been a few select people who actually did something throughout history, and even then why would I care about the descendants?  BUT, I still very much respect and want whites to remain the vast majority in Western countries. I grew up in a place where whites were 99% of the city population and school system, and I did fine. I obviously looked great. Handful of other races and it was perfectly normal. And I can see how a lot of it has gone to shit since then and more dilution. Western culture doesn’t need to celebrate other cultures and diversity, it’s the way it is because it is. 

please stop, youre embarrassing yourself:

That said, I’m not going to actively go out of my way to promote white people and follow the ridiculous motion that other races should show gratitude to white folks.

yet you were the one who posted this very thread labeled: "why is white culture so superior" 

 BUT, I still very much respect and want whites to remain the vast majority in Western countries

guess what dawg, white nationalists dont feel the same about other non-white cultures. all the pro-white people ive ever met (online and in real life) have been unapologetic white supremacists who dont give a rats ass about any other races and in fact they take sociopathic glee at how whites have historically attacked and colonized other cultures, in fact they gloat about the past colonial exploits of whites while simultaneously crying about how now its whites that are in danger of having their culture wiped out. isnt that a little bit hypocritical? these people are your default political allies

you dont seem to realize this but pro-white white people look down on you, they dont even consider you as human. they dont care if youre on the same side as them, in fact they probably feel entitled to your support. I know you consider yourself as noble and reasonable, but youre also missing the bigger picture. you basically fail to understand the psychology of these far-right whites and mistakenly assume that theyre as rational as you are, but they arent. ironically the best white people are those that arent involved in these kinds of politics

also, you spend too much time on /pol/ or at least 4chan. 4chan is full of maladjusted pro-white chuds who constantly put down other races while simultaneously complaining about racism against whites. just from reading what you write, I can tell that your thinking is heavily influenced by 4chan /pol/ bullshit. its probably where you adopted your cringey pro-white, anti-china stance from. notably you couldnt disprove anything I said in this previous post:

https://bookism.net/showthread.php?tid=26793&pid=152556#pid152556

you didnt disprove any of the points I brought up though. how can you realistically slam china for its various misdeeds but give the west a pass when its done much much worse? the west has historically and in the modern day continues to meddle in the affairs of the entire world, meanwhile you badmouth china which is only participating in regional affairs (which is completely rational and normal). 

IOW you consider the west (specifically anglo-saxon) as being "altruistic" (your words not mine), while considering china "the worst actor in all of asia". have you even read a history book? how much death and destruction did the anglo-saxon world bring upon east asia within the past century alone? which country still has military bases posted throughout all of east asia to enforce its will? its certainly not china. and how did those military bases end up in east asia to begin with? through military force. yet somehow china is the real aggressor huh

you let the west off scot-free from any kind of historical judgment meanwhile condemning china in the same way, youre retarded mate. im not defending china btw, im just using china as a way to demonstrate how your logic is distorted through your cucked pro-white tendencies lol

to be clear, the west is not entirely bad, nor is china entirely good, the reality is more nuanced than that, but I find it astonishing your blind-hatred for china while also completely overlooking the historical misdeeds of the west, and even considering them as being "altruistic". btw 4chan is a honeypot, the place glows and is infested with shills, disinformation agents and mentally ill chuds, I wouldnt consider it as a reliable source of information but I can tell from what you say that you uncritically imbibe everything you read there

Also, I find Arthur Kwon Lee, the pan-faced, coin slot eyed gook (who believes he's good looking, posting blackball content) extremely cringe by the way. Talking about an East Asian-European alliance lmfao.  

uh bro, why are you being racist about this guys physical appearance, even calling him a "gook"? youre asian yourself dumbass. its little details like this that make it obvious that youre just another cringey pro-white asian. yeah dude, white anons on 4chan use this kind of language, but youre not white though, to us youre just another pan-faced, coin slot eyed gook yourself. and also youre no different than arthur kwon lee, youre just as cringe as he is

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yet you were the one who posted this very thread labeled: "why is white culture so superior" 

sarcasm w/half truths like a lot of my other threads

guess what dawg, white nationalists dont feel the same about other non-white cultures. all the pro-white people ive ever met (online and in real life) have been unapologetic white supremacists who dont give a rats ass about any other races and in fact they take sociopathic glee at how whites have historically attacked and colonized other cultures, in fact they gloat about the past colonial exploits of whites while simultaneously crying about how now its whites that are in danger of having their culture wiped out. isnt that a little bit hypocritical? these people are your default political allies

you dont seem to realize this but pro-white white people look down on you, they dont even consider you as human. they dont care if youre on the same side as them, in fact they probably feel entitled to your support. I know you consider yourself as noble and reasonable, but youre also missing the bigger picture. you basically fail to understand the psychology of these far-right whites and mistakenly assume that theyre as rational as you are, but they arent. ironically the best white people are those that arent involved in these kinds of politics

I'm well aware of the psychology of white supremacists. You don't need to make the effort to try to educate me. I made it clear where I said [it may one day] "extend to all non-whites" because I understand that getting behind them does nothing in my favor, as it eventually extends to all non-whites. Twitter is full of the 1488, race traitor, Make Europa Snow accounts nowadays. And it's gaining traction with the bad economy and state of the world. Also, I've never supported white nationalism, never explicitly said this nor hinted at it. And a lot of the shit they're saying and gaining support with is complete retarded nonsense. How whites have been indoctrinated to not see color, how they've become victims -- laughable. 

also, you spend too much time on /pol/ or at least 4chan. 4chan is full of maladjusted pro-white chuds who constantly put down other races while simultaneously complaining about racism against whites. just from reading what you write, I can tell that your thinking is heavily influenced by 4chan /pol/ bullshit. its probably where you adopted your cringey pro-white, anti-china stance from. notably you couldnt disprove anything I said in this previous post:

I've never even been on 4chan, but nice try. Don't even know what /pol/ is. I've seen a lot of shit they probably made like how all the slaveowners were Jewish, media are Jewish, but I've never paid much attention to it.

to be clear, the west is not entirely bad, nor is china entirely good, the reality is more nuanced than that, but I find it astonishing your blind-hatred for china while also completely overlooking the historical misdeeds of the west, and even considering them as being "altruistic". btw 4chan is a honeypot, the place glows and is infested with shills, disinformation agents and mentally ill chuds, I wouldnt consider it as a reliable source of information but I can tell from what you say that you uncritically imbibe everything you read there

I've replied to everything you've said. I don't have a blind-hate for China, but I don't like them. Greatest risk for mass surveillance and suppression of freedom; you can say what you want, but the West is better in this regard. And you can leave China's geopolitics on the table, I'm pretty sure I know more than you on this topic. Northeast Project. Practically every surrounding Asian country hating them with a passion isn't a coincidence.

uh bro, why are you being racist about this guys physical appearance, even calling him a "gook"? youre asian yourself dumbass. its little details like this that make it obvious that youre just another cringey pro-white asian. yeah dude, white anons on 4chan use this kind of language, but youre not white though, to us youre just another pan-faced, coin slot eyed gook yourself. and also youre no different than arthur kwon lee, youre just as cringe as he is

Because I can? Making fun of other Asian guys on the basis of physical appearance, while looking like shit himself. And of course, you didn't do your research. If I was a pigskin-lover, I'd be behind that guy, talking a muh yellow-pink alliance, muh fuck the kikes, fuck black people. But, I don't support those talking points. 

I think you're just as cringe btw. Clearly, I'm still in your head. You can continue to say how white supremacists don't see me as human. That's great. I still see myself as superior and always will. You might not get it, and that's fine.

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@Asian Male

Basically Lee Kuan Yew talking points. And yeah, it doesn't matter what generation you are, you're still considered non-American to many. I understand this. The dagoes (Italians), MANY European populations arrived later than the Chinese, Japanese to the US, but they've since been accepted as whites (they weren't prior) and true Americans while the latter technically haven't. Okay, you can all go back. I'll still choose to be in the chaos. If anything, I welcome it and have my reasons.

[M1NT]

sarcasm w/half truths like a lot of my other threads

nothing about the OP sounds like sarcasm to me. you sound pretty genuine here:

the attire. the dances. the music. the synchrony. the faces. the bodies. i'm trying to look at it from a non-biased POV having grown up in the west and well aware of the culture of the others, but i can't help but understand why they dominated the world and why the world revolves around them.

youre trying to cover your ass but the fact is, you are a cringey pro-white asian no matter how much you try to deny this. youre just embarrassed for being called out on it and your ego cant take it, thats why you continue to dance around the accusation and act like its not true

I'm well aware of the psychology of white supremacists. You don't need to make the effort to try to educate me. I made it clear where I said [it may one day] "extend to all non-whites" because I understand that getting behind them does nothing in my favor, as it eventually extends to all non-whites. Twitter is full of the 1488, race traitor, Make Europa Snow accounts nowadays. And it's gaining traction with the bad economy and state of the world. Also, I've never supported white nationalism, never explicitly said this nor hinted at it. And a lot of the shit they're saying and gaining support with is complete retarded nonsense. How whites have been indoctrinated to not see color, how they've become victims -- laughable. 

you say you want whites to remain the vast majority in their own countries, yet at the same time you claim that pro-whites are cringe and stupid, so how exactly do you envision whites being able to remain the vast majority in their own countries? through what political means do you envision this happening? if not through the pro-whites that say complete retarded nonsense (according to you), then through who? the only people talking about keeping white countries white are white nationalists and related types. so basically youre saying that you want white countries to remain majority white, but you also think the only people trying to achieve this (pro-whites, white nationalists etc) are stupid. this makes no sense at all, seems like youre trying to deliberately backpedal and argue against my correct perception that youre a cringey pro-white asian.

I've never even been on 4chan, but nice try. Don't even know what /pol/ is. I've seen a lot of shit they probably made like how all the slaveowners were Jewish, media are Jewish, but I've never paid much attention to it.

youre a liar. just as youve been backpedaling and trying to obfuscate the fact that youre a cringey pro-white asian, you also lie about your browsing habits:

i might go back to browsing 4chan

https://bookism.net/showthread.php?tid=27020&pid=152008#pid152008

I correctly identified the source of your cringey politics, you get a lot of your idiotic political takes from 4chan, likely /pol/

I've replied to everything you've said

but you didnt. this was all you ever replied to me regarding that quote about china:

not gonna bother reading that

https://bookism.net/showthread.php?tid=26793&pid=152562#pid152562

you didnt give a proper response then and you didnt now, because you cant. you have this cringey perception that whites are overly altruistic and good, meanwhile "china bad!", but it doesnt square up with reality. and you know this, and you know that you cant argue against the points that I brought up, so you just obfuscate and lie instead.

Greatest risk for mass surveillance and suppression of freedom; you can say what you want, but the West is better in this regard. And you can leave China's geopolitics on the table, I'm pretty sure I know more than you on this topic. Northeast Project. 

none of this has anything to do with the fact that the supposedly "altruistic" west is the one with military bases completely surrounding china:

IOW you consider the west (specifically anglo-saxon) as being "altruistic" (your words not mine), while considering china "the worst actor in all of asia". have you even read a history book? how much death and destruction did the anglo-saxon world bring upon east asia within the past century alone? which country still has military bases posted throughout all of east asia to enforce its will? its certainly not china. and how did those military bases end up in east asia to begin with? through military force. yet somehow china is the real aggressor huh

you keep trying to shift around the point I brought up without actually addressing it, because you know that you cant. whether or not china is a greater risk for mass surveillance and suppression of freedom has nothing to do with the point that I was making, and you know this yourself, but you couldnt refute my logic, so you tried to shift the argument to a different point

Practically every surrounding Asian country hating them with a passion isn't a coincidence.

many of these surrounding asian countries that hate china also have US military bases stationed there as well, what a coincidence huh? its almost as if the US is using its political/military leverage in these countries to influence how they interact with china

but lets not fool ourselves, you also get your china hate stuff from 4chan. just letting you know, when 4chan chuds badmouth china, theyre actually bitching about asians in general. their criticisms are superficially directed towards china, but they actually see it as a white vs yellow thing. the only thing is that china is not pacified like japan and other asian countries, so for that reason they must hate it

Because I can? Making fun of other Asian guys on the basis of physical appearance, while looking like shit himself. And of course, you didn't do your research. If I was a pigskin-lover, I'd be behind that guy, talking a muh yellow-pink alliance, muh fuck the kikes, fuck black people. But, I don't support those talking points. 

that does nothing to disprove my point. youre making fun of his physical appearance using explicitly racial terms:

Also, I find Arthur Kwon Lee, the pan-faced, coin slot eyed gook (who believes he's good looking, posting blackball content) extremely cringe by the way. Talking about an East Asian-European alliance lmfao.  

you werent just calling him ugly, you were calling him an ugly gook, which is bizarre coming from an asian person himself. once again youve demonstrated that youre dishonest and will try to deflect when called out on something instead of admitting I was correct

the irony about this is that you cringey pro-white asians are all the same. arthur kwon lee makes fun of the appearance of fellow pro-white asian ian miles cheong, meanwhile you make fun of the appearance of arthur kwon lee. the reason you dont support arthur kwon lee is because this is a vanity thing for both you and him. both of you all are trying to use the pro-white stuff to differentiate yourselves, in the words of arthur kwon lee's twitter blurb: "i hate arthur, he's one of those bad asians". youre doing the same shit lol, youre trying to build up your rep as a "BASED PRO-WHITE ASIAN". its all cringe dude, just stop it

I think you're just as cringe btw. Clearly, I'm still in your head.

I literally wrote some random comment in this thread like two weeks ago which wasnt even addressed to you and then you came out of nowhere and replied to it with a wall of text. clearly youre the one thats bothered

[Altruist]

because something in them made them very much dislike being subservient slaves to the tyranny of papism and despotism. when they finally did get their freedom, the results were some of the greatest technological, military, scientific, and cultural achievements in known history

compare this attitude to nations who were satisfied with being obligated to worship cow shit or statues of mary, or to submit to the whims of some crackpot dictator. yeah, they might have "rich traditions"... which happens to come about when you never innovate and do the same shit for the past 2k years

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@M1NT



Nope. Lots of text that mean nothing, per usual. Also, just stop with the whole "4chan chuds," "my white supremacist friends," you're talking about yourself. You know it, and I know it. People typically don't surround themselves with people on the opposite side of the spectrum. And it's ironic because you're the one trying to come off as altruistic to other people's causes that really shouldn't mean anything to you. No need to twist what I think. You do you. And clearly, you've spent quite some time on r/aznidentity and those echo chambers of communities that I couldn't care less about -- something clearly bothers you.

None of your gaslighting gets to me in the end. I really don't support anyone's causes or interests but myself, although I'll hop around to align myself where I see fit. Arthur Kwon Lee is still a pan-faced, slot eyed gook -- that's what he is, he thinks he's one of them, but we both know that he isn't. Black libs are 100% right in this regard and consciously aware of this.

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[M1NT]

@M1NT
Nope. Lots of text that mean nothing, per usual.

if you could have refuted the numerous points I brought up then you would have, but you couldnt, so you didnt. I mean I literally caught you lying about browsing 4chan lol, thats hardly "text that mean nothing". just accusing me of writing a bunch of meaningless text doesnt mean that anything I said was actually meaningless, it just means that you were unable to answer it

Also, just stop with the whole "4chan chuds," "my white supremacist friends," you're talking about yourself. You know it, and I know it. People typically don't surround themselves with people on the opposite side of the spectrum.

buddy, I browse 4chan a lot, thats why I was able to recognize where you were getting your political views from. also im an ex-white nationalist, I spent years on that corner of the internet, so I know that group very well, much better than you do. 

None of your gaslighting gets to me in the end. I really don't support anyone's causes or interests but myself, although I'll hop around to align myself where I see fit. Arthur Kwon Lee is still a pan-faced, slot eyed gook -- that's what he is, he thinks he's one of them, but we both know that he isn't. Black libs are 100% right in this regard and consciously aware of this.

if my "gaslighting" didnt really get to you, then why did you bother writing a lengthy response to a two week old comment that wasnt even directly addressed to you?

again its puzzling that you call arthur kwon lee a pan-faced, slot eyed gook, youre asian yourself, youre also a "gook". ironically you imply that you think youre one of them (a white person) by the fact that youre choosing to call another asian person a gook, as if youre not a "gook" yourself

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if you could have refuted the numerous points I brought up then you would have, but you couldnt, so you didnt. I mean I literally caught you lying about browsing 4chan lol, thats hardly "text that mean nothing". just accusing me of writing a bunch of meaningless text doesnt mean that anything I said was actually meaningless, it just means that you were unable to answer it

buddy, I browse 4chan a lot, thats why I was able to recognize where you were getting your political views from. also im an ex-white nationalist, I spent years on that corner of the internet, so I know that group very well, much better than you do. 

if my "gaslighting" didnt really get to you, then why did you bother writing a lengthy response to a two week old comment that wasnt even directly addressed to you?

again its puzzling that you call arthur kwon lee a pan-faced, slot eyed gook, youre asian yourself, youre also a "gook". ironically you imply that you think youre one of them (a white person) by the fact that youre choosing to call another asian person a gook, as if youre not a "gook" yourself

Retarded, completely untrue takes. You're a midwit. Simple as

Fortunately behind the safety of your mobile device. Because I'd really consider taking a belt and wrapping it around your neck.

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again its puzzling that you call arthur kwon lee a pan-faced, slot eyed gook, youre asian yourself, youre also a "gook". ironically you imply that you think youre one of them (a white person) by the fact that youre choosing to call another asian person a gook, as if youre not a "gook" yourself

I think I know what a gook is lol. Most people don't even what that word means, but it means kingdom and soup -- China is referred to as "Middle Kingdom" and America as "Beautiful Kingdom." Koreans used it a lot, which the Americans took notice of, and 180'd it into a slur.

I'm not bothered being called that by a NEET

[M1NT]

Retarded, completely untrue takes. You're a midwit. Simple as

Fortunately behind the safety of your mobile device. Because I'd really consider taking a belt and wrapping it around your neck.

if you could disprove anything ive written then you would have but you know that im right, so instead of admitting you were wrong, you just hurl insults instead. I mean you were literally lying about browsing 4chan lol

the problem is that you put whites on a pedestal, and the reason you do this is because youre gullible and naive. youve been brainwashed by shills, bots and mentally ill white supremacist chuds on 4chan into thinking that whites are more virtuous than they really are. the truth is, theres lots of really great whites (im one of them ), but theres lots of really shitty whites too

I think I know what a gook is lol. Most people don't even what that word means, but it means kingdom and soup -- China is referred to as "Middle Kingdom" and America as "Beautiful Kingdom." Koreans used it a lot, which the Americans took notice of, and 180'd it into a slur.

I'm not bothered being called that by a NEET

mosa, please dont do this. just take your L gracefully. you know and I know that you were using "gook" as a slur, you weren't referring to kingdom or soup when you were talking about arthur kwon lee:

Arthur Kwon Lee is still a pan-faced, slot eyed gook -- that's what he is

did you really think your attempt at semantic sophistry was going to throw me off? the fact is, my original point stands:

again its puzzling that you call arthur kwon lee a pan-faced, slot eyed gook, youre asian yourself, youre also a "gook". ironically you imply that you think youre one of them (a white person) by the fact that youre choosing to call another asian person a gook, as if youre not a "gook" yourself

youre a cringey pro-white asian, just like arthur kwon lee

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if you could disprove anything ive written then you would have but you know that im right, so instead of admitting you were wrong, you just hurl insults instead. I mean you were literally lying about browsing 4chan lol

the problem is that you put whites on a pedestal, and the reason you do this is because youre gullible and naive. youve been brainwashed by shills, bots and mentally ill white supremacist chuds on 4chan into thinking that whites are more virtuous than they really are. the truth is, theres lots of really great whites (im one of them ), but theres lots of really shitty whites too

mosa, please dont do this. just take your L gracefully. you know and I know that you were using "gook" as a slur, you weren't referring to kingdom or soup when you were talking about arthur kwon lee:
did you really think your attempt at semantic sophistry was going to throw me off? the fact is, my original point stands:
youre a cringey pro-white asian, just like arthur kwon lee

believe what you want, mint through your logical fallacies and sheer repetition of your points. like I said months ago, sharks recognize sharks. all I've learned is you're just as much as an egomaniac (possibly on the autism spectrum with hyperfixations) as I am. excluding the autism for me ofc

I naturally learn towards Western values based on my own values and worldview. I think you'll come to understand with the advent of AI and drones flying around.

[M1NT]

believe what you want, mint through your logical fallacies and sheer repetition of your points. like I said months ago, sharks recognize sharks. all I've learned is you're just as much as an egomaniac (possibly on the autism spectrum with hyperfixations) as I am. excluding the autism for me ofc

I have to continuously repeat points because you refuse to address them, why are you so evasive? why cant you directly address the points I bring up? instead you only resort to hurling insults without any real substance to your responses. if I was actually as wrong as you claim that I am then you would be able to prove that im wrong by engaging in actual discussion, but you dont, because you cant. take what you wrote previously for example:

+ i'd never align myself with china. maybe i'll get behind singapore or another asian country but china, no. worst actor in all of asia, constantly trying to subjugate their own neighboring asian countries, steal resources, and claim history (that they don't even know, as they burned much of it during the cultural revolution). and they're the most likely to abuse their own citizens. pair this with incoming mass AI + drone technology and good luck with any future revolts. dystopian nightmare. fuck china, fuck the soft ass bitches on r/aznidenti

why is it that you get mad at china for asserting its regional interests by (supposedly) trying to subjugate neighboring asian countries and "stealing resources" but then you idolize the west for doing the exact same thing:

why is white culture so superior
specifically western european white culture. even confederate culture and traditions translates well in fucking brazil. the attire. the dances. the music. the synchrony. the faces. the bodies. i'm trying to look at it from a non-biased POV having grown up in the west and well aware of the culture of the others, but i can't help but understand why they dominated the world and why the world revolves around them.

so let me get this straight, its ok when whites dominate the entire world and steal resources but its bad when china does the same thing (and only on a regional scale). is that correct?

also, how many military bases does china have in neighboring asian countries? almost none. and how many military bases does the US have in these same asian countries? it has countless bases. so who's trying to subjugate who here? seems like the US to me. do you really think countries like japan or south korea have true political autonomy? lets be real, they do what uncle sam (a strong WHITE man ) tells them to do

and as ive been continuously saying, I literally caught you lying about browsing 4chan:

what you wrote on 16-01-2025, 02:30 AM:

I've never even been on 4chan, but nice try. Don't even know what /pol/ is. I've seen a lot of shit they probably made like how all the slaveowners were Jewish, media are Jewish, but I've never paid much attention to it.

https://bookism.net/showthread.php?tid=27593&pid=173152#pid173152

but you wrote this on 03-09-2024, 05:01 AM:

i might go back to browsing 4chan

https://bookism.net/showthread.php?tid=27020&pid=152008#pid152008

you keep implying that im being deceptive or lying, but its you thats being the deceptive one. if youre lying/deflecting about browsing 4chan, who knows what else youre deflecting about

I naturally learn towards Western values based on my own values and worldview. I think you'll come to understand with the advent of AI and drones flying around.

the problem is not leaning towards western values in and of itself though (lol at you bothering to capitalize the W in western), the problem is that you take an uncritically positive stance towards the west and towards whites in general, likewise you take an uncritically negative stance towards china (which I bring up because you seem to be referring to them in this comment with the reference to AI and drones). what you continually fail to realize is that the white supremacists youve gotten your distorted view of whites from (most likely from /pol/) dont have your interests in mind, if pro-whites ever came to power and made the US a white nation again, you would quickly find yourself disenfranchised. you need to understand that not all whites are good (nor are all whites bad for that matter). just because you support whites, doesnt mean that whites support you, especially the pro-whites that you identify with

regarding AI and drones, you should realize that this isnt a purely west vs china thing, as you seem to be insinuating. this is a technological matter thats going to affect all cultures in many ways that we probably cant even imagine yet. do you really believe that an abstraction like "western values" is going to stop the onset of the surveillance state in the west? the truth is, you have an overly simplified paradigm of geopolitics (good west vs bad china), its almost like youve never heard of edward snowden, or the draconian measures enacted across the west during the covid pandemic, or the surveillance capabilities of the smart phones that everyone carries around these days. do you really think that the US government doesnt have access to all your activities on social media or everything you do on the internet? I really hope youre not that naive, although I get the impression that you are