considering josh, pp and rm are barely posting, i really doubt i'd be logging in here

[Altruist]

wtf happened here

i skimmed through and my pet is wrong (as usual) when it comes to cryptocurrency. nobody with knowledge in the space would try to blanket generalize all tokens in this manner. bitcoin is easy to trace because it's literally a public ledger.  

re Tornado Cash:

I'm sure the US government did all those things because it was super "easy to track down" users 

wait, what's your current claim? 

that crypto is superior because it btfoes evil governments, banks and intermediaries or that it's identical to the current payment system because it's just as traceable as bank transactions (rendering all your comical shilling redundant and moronic)? 

you can't blame me for asking considering your stance on why crypto is the shit changes on a monthly basis, depending on the way the entire scheme gets exposed as complete bs

p.s. the generalizing part you are mentioning is really retarded and just another backtracking. yet another one. you are basically saying i'm saying american dollars, euros and chf are as valuable, as currencies, as serbian dinar or yen, and that implication is just cringe (not that you can reach for a better argument, tho)

[MysteriousWeeb420]

wait, what's your current claim? that crypto is superior because it btfoes the evil governments, banks and intermediaries or that it's identical to the current payment system because it's just as traceable as bank transactions (rendering all your comical shilling redundant and moronic)? you can't blame for asking considering your stance on why crypto is the shit changes on a monthly basis, depending on the way the entire scheme gets exposed

my stance is simple: programmable money is better than non-programmable money 

everything you mention are just new consequences of added flexibility

[Busty Doll]

my stance is simple: programmable money is better than non-programmable money 

everything you mention are just new consequences of added flexibility

Don't use words like Money when you haven't proven that crypto has value.

[Altruist]

my stance is simple: programmable money is better than non-programmable money 

1. since when does crypto equal money?
2. what does programmable mean? (i wouldn't go there against me if i were you)

new consequences of added flexibility

which twitter retard did you copy this completely meaningless string of letters from, lmao

[Altruist]

I'm sure the US government did all those things because it was super "easy to track down" users 

they did it because it's easier to label the entire thing as a cringe scam than to pretend it's not a cringe scam because it's "legit" for 0.000000000000000001% of users in 0.0000000001% of cases, meaning wasting even more budget money on controlling it. 

you are trying to prove something is legit by emphasizing the core of it is shady business.

dear god.

in case you need it broken down further: it IS easy to track down users; it's just that, "metaphorically" speaking, it's way cheaper and more effective to criminalize fraud than to pretend fraud as a concept doesn't exist and then have to come up with a new formulation of fraud in every single case that occurs and gets labeled as an act with criminal content identical to the one that would have been consumed in a generalized definition of (criminalized) fraud anyway

[Altruist]

Don't use words like Money when you haven't proven that crypto has value.

high iq

[MysteriousWeeb420]

1. since when does crypto equal money?
2. what does programmable mean? (i wouldn't go there against me if i were you)


which twitter retard did you copy this completely meaningless string of letters from, lmao

1. You can find the functions and properties of money in any basic economics textbook. Most tokens clearly meet these criteria 

2. Instructions and logic can be encoded into the money so things happen automatically when certain criteria are met

[MysteriousWeeb420]

they did it because it's easier to label the entire thing as a cringe scam than to pretend it's not a cringe scam because it's "legit" for 0.000000000000000001% of users in 0.0000000001% of cases, meaning wasting even more budget money on controlling it. 

you are trying to prove something is legit by emphasizing the core of it is shady business.

dear god.

in case you need it broken down further: it IS easy to track down users; it's just that, "metaphorically" speaking, it's way cheaper and more effective to criminalize fraud than to pretend fraud as a concept doesn't exist and then have to come up with a new formulation of fraud in every single case that occurs and gets labeled as an act with criminal content identical to the one that would be consumed in a generalized definition and criminalization of fraud

Keep coping, the US government went extremely hard on tornado cash specifically because they could not trace through it.

[Altruist]

solid thread title and op to thread content ratio

[Altruist]

guys whose biggest purchase in life was a 200 EUR laptop promoting crypto because it "keeps their transactions hidden from the government" (while simultaneously expecting that same government to protect them in case they get scammed) strike again

there is no way this doesn't get included in the next edition of DSM, lmfao

[MysteriousWeeb420]

Keep ignoring my points, Luka

[Altruist]

If someone used a VPN and then committed terrorist offenses, would you say he's safe from the CIA?

The government always has the most powerful hacking software, that is why it's called government.

Therefore I don't believe the claims that BTC is a foolproof mask.

perfect analogy and exactly what i was saying when describing that case i had. people talking about how cool and mysterious crypto transactions are are equivalent to kids hiding something under their bed to keep it away from their parents, lmfao.

it's funny how otherwise decently intelligent people turn into full-blown retards when they smell the prospect of "easy money".

The government always has the most powerful hacking software

and it if doesn't, guess how it solves the problem - by seizing/buying it and hiring people with adequate knowledge to work for them.

[Altruist]

https://www.lawnews.co.uk/blog/what-are-kyc-rules-in-crypto/



m-muh public ledger, m-muh blockchain, m-muh bitcoin addresses are not connected with your real identity, m-muh big words i picked up from some twitter scam artist



holy clowns

X provides anonymization services to Y so that Y could do something online more privately, away from Z's eyes ... the government orders X to give them full data and info of Y because there is suspicion of criminal activities ... Y (including all his previously "anonymized" activities) instantly becomes as anonymous and protected as a naked white stacy in the middle of mumbai

not to mention the mental retardation of wanting to hide any aspect of your life from the institutions, but still counting on those institutions to protect you when you get scammed. and if whoever is providing your wallet didnt comply with the rules from the link, then you getting scammed is only a matter of time. so ... a retard-retard situation.

[MysteriousWeeb420]

Somone doesnt understand what decentralisation is, apparently 

There is no X in your analogy, that's why the government just bans these protocols and puts people in prison for writing lines of code

[n9wiff]

OP is having a meltdown as usual