14-05-2023, 09:12 PM
The bible admits if it's grace it is no longer based on works,but belief is a work.
Noone can earn eternal heaven or eternal hellfire.so since the former in christianity get heaven based on grace,since a finite duration of obediance cannot earn heave,since perfect justice is comensurate,why doesn't the christian god give everyone heaven based on grace?all of it is undeserved.and noone can 'please'a perfect God,as perfection would meet his standard and all the time.Pleasure from a creation or anything outside yourself also is a privation.
the idea that you must obey or believe in him to get to heaven makes zero sense to me.
The christian god tells isaiah and also his disciples that he speaks in parables to stop people from repenting and being saved,and He tells isaiah to decieve in his speech lest the wrongdoers of israel might hear,repent and be healed.
That cannot be that ultimate principle of perfection rather it must be an imposter.
Noone can earn eternal heaven or eternal hellfire.so since the former in christianity get heaven based on grace,since a finite duration of obediance cannot earn heave,since perfect justice is comensurate,why doesn't the christian god give everyone heaven based on grace?all of it is undeserved.and noone can 'please'a perfect God,as perfection would meet his standard and all the time.Pleasure from a creation or anything outside yourself also is a privation.
the idea that you must obey or believe in him to get to heaven makes zero sense to me.
The christian god tells isaiah and also his disciples that he speaks in parables to stop people from repenting and being saved,and He tells isaiah to decieve in his speech lest the wrongdoers of israel might hear,repent and be healed.
That cannot be that ultimate principle of perfection rather it must be an imposter.
