03-05-2023, 03:06 PM
(03-05-2023, 01:45 PM)kathisterima Wrote:(03-05-2023, 12:49 PM)brocode Wrote: This is literally showing Beef is superior in all ways. You're literally showing me here that we have to consume 4.8x 100g of apple (which would cause more carbon footprint to produce) than 100g of beef WHILE beef is more nutrient dense and calorie efficient? Dawg, not really sure how this is supposed to help your point here.
Even though this is favoring beef, I have to tell you, Calories don't matter much since protein has an additional Thermic Effect of Food and most foods are different. calorie is not a great way to measure food quality.
"On average it takes 15,400 litres of water to make 1kg of beef"
"822 litres of water is used to make one kg apples"
"Apples have a relatively low carbon footprint of 0.24 kg (0.53 lbs) of CO2e per pound of produce compared to other fruits."
"With 99.48 kilograms of carbon dioxide equivalents per kilogram, beef production remains the biggest source of greenhouse gases."
What are u on?
100g of BEEF is the same weight as 100g of Apple. Calories means jackshit. u will feel MORE full eating 100g of beef than u would eating 100g of Apple.
Water can be derived from any source, thats not a big problem. Cows dont need giga filtered water to drink, they're just gonna lick the water and they have 2 digestive tracts to fix anything in their way.
Quote:(03-05-2023, 12:49 PM)brocode Wrote: I was of the impression that we mutually understand that the ammonia "emissions" come from fertilizers and not cows directly and urea isnt the real cause for groundwater pollution.
Cow urine has some enzymes that naturally treat the extremely tiny amount of urea present in it.
Fertilizers are a problem, I'm not advocating for the use of fertilizers.
(03-05-2023, 12:49 PM)brocode Wrote: the point was they're a result of fertilizers and soil degradation, not cows grazing on grass or pissing on the soil.
stop being in denial
I've posted links and data that prove the following
- groundwater contamination is linked to fertilizer used for agriculture AND cow urine
- the agriculture industry is the main cause of produced ammonia emissions
- cow urine still releases ammonia emissions
- ammonia emissions damage soil
how am i being in denial?
I will lay it out all for you if you want to know how it works since you clearly don't seem to understand what's going on.
Ammonia is a compound made up of nitrogen and hydrogen, and it is commonly used in the production of fertilizers, as well as in industrial processes and refrigeration. However, ammonia emissions can also be a significant source of groundwater pollution. When ammonia is released into the environment, it can be converted into ammonium, which can then dissolve in water and contaminate groundwater. Ammonia can also react with other chemicals in the environment to form harmful compounds, such as nitrate, which can have serious health effects on humans and animals.
Excessive ammonia emissions (key word: EXCESSIVE) can also contribute to eutrophication, which is the process of nutrient overload in bodies of water that can lead to the growth of harmful algae and the depletion of oxygen in the water. This can be harmful to aquatic life and can also impact human activities such as fishing and recreation.
Yes, cow urine can contain ammonia. Ammonia is a natural byproduct of the breakdown of urea, a component of urine. When cow urine is stored or left to decompose, the urea in the urine can be broken down by bacteria, releasing ammonia gas into the air. This is why cow urine is sometimes used as a natural fertilizer, as the ammonia can provide nutrients to plants.
So what happens Cow Urine is directly mixed with Soil and not left to decompose?
When the urine is mixed with soil, Cow urine contains nutrients such as nitrogen, potassium, and phosphorus, which can be beneficial for plant growth, which can be absorbed by the plants and used for their growth and development. In addition, cow urine contains microorganisms such as bacteria and fungi, which can help to improve soil health by breaking down organic matter and releasing nutrients. These microorganisms can also help to suppress harmful pathogens and pests in the soil.
YES, EXCESS of it will be a problem. but guess what? there wont be much fucking excess from cow piss.
Dawg just think about it.
- cow piss, which has only 2.5% urea, out of which only 10% is ammonia, basically, 0.25% of all piss is ammonia.
- Plant FERTILIZERS used for plant and crop agriculture, which have on average 34% nitrogen, out of which 80% is in the form of ammonia, basically 27.2% of all that fertilizer is Ammonia.
0.25% ammonia emmission from breeding 1 cow vs 27.2% ammonia emmission from 1 crop.
and to get muh all nutrients u need to farm 40 different types of crop, so essentially doing the math here, its not gonna look fucking good for advocation of consumption of plants.
cows dont need to eat feed that is fertilized at all, in fact its worse for their health and the meat quality. they can and SHOULD eat fertilizer free feed.
blame the market for using excessive fertilizers in crop AND PLANT AGRICULTURE and the feed turning out to be high in ammonia.
hell even u piss high amounts of ammonia out this way, forget cows.

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