18-02-2023, 06:33 PM
(18-02-2023, 03:46 PM)kathisterima Wrote:(18-02-2023, 02:59 PM)10khitman Wrote:(18-02-2023, 02:02 PM)kathisterima Wrote:(18-02-2023, 08:21 AM)10khitman Wrote: lol, sure, im not qualified to make the objective analysis that fischer played as a part of an international war, while magnus and hikaru play just cause theyre idiot savants, because im not a GM.
u give me anti-intellectual intellectual vibes, i have a valid opinion, and u just felt like putting urself above me for the sake of it, but u made no real point.
and no, im not falling for some romanticization of the old era, i dont care about that old
head garbage. its just a fact that now we have computers, and therefore we now we have advanced objective theory, therefore significantly less creativity is required; its boring. Why is Magnus the best of all time, but never played any sequences that compare to the beauty of Tal, Nezh, Fischer, blanca...? Computers and theory, thats why. Its boring, and its soulless.
no better way than starting off with the strawman
if you think that about chess it is fine, just know that you are not making a correct assessment
engines if anything diversified the game by proving many variations that were previously thought as impossible to play, are actually playable
magnus doesn't have beautiful games? yeah, right...
The reason you don't see people sacrificing 3 pieces and then winning in high level games nowadays isn't that they lack creativity, but simply because the players nowadays are sound enough defensively to be able to hold off at such sharp positions
Chess, especially blitz and rapid, is more interesting than ever because the players are better than ever. Classic has always been pretty lackluster, it personally doesn't interest me. You can't act like Fischer played "creatively" in his World Chess Championship matches. And no, it's just a board game.
Yea sure Fischer's game 6 against Spassky wasnt even creative
I would bet something like... $1000? That ur 1500? You probably watch GothamChess and Agadmator or something, and feel the need to defend the honour of modern era for... whatever reason... maybe because its all you know? Its how you learned this game?
Ok here, forget everything either of us said. Now, look at the Botez twins, most popular chess players in the world, and go ahead and tell me the state of the chess comminity isnt utterly pathetic and corrupted as compared to the era of the soviets... Please... And no, its not just because theyre "pretty females", its because they dress and act like whores, not intelligent "women".
And yes, it is just a board game in and of itself, especially today. But in the old ages, you could be a peasant worshipped by Kings for being good enough at it. Or be a hero of your country. Why? Because it was a great indicator of YOUR INHERENT CREATIVITY, NOT YOUR ABILITY TO MEMORIZE A COMPUTER'S CREATIVITY.
Show me ur above 2k even in online chess and ill shut up.
yeah sure man, all modern players do is memorize 1 billion lines (whereas older players were playing completely off the dome) and whichever humanoid has the best processing hardware wins. And no, I don't watch streamers so these names tell me nothing (it's a completely off-topic subject anyways). You really make this sound like sour grapes now that you told us about your chess elo insecurity.
man it's just a game didn't read mostly but this sounds elitist and try hard
it's not different that LOL or DOTA 2 or some incels haven except it isn't social falio
btw magnus would asecend with midface implants and be genuine chad

