Why did Scythians and Sarmatians disappear from history?

[noi_avorrit]

How do you know if they had a strong position, we know close to nothing about them. They were probably an amalgamation of nomadic tribes (probably numerous ethnicities) with no cohesion or political stability. 

Yeah you're right, we know next to nothing about them (except for their genetics) but I deduced they used to have a strong position because their ancestors the Andronovo could invade the whole of northern India and modern day Iran, apart from the war that the Persians under Darius had with them, when they were absolutely defeated by Scythians. They were also successful raiders.

Yeah they were an amalgamation of many nomadic tribes who were independent of one another, however they had the term "Aryan" and its dialectal forms as a catch-all term for Sarmatian and Scythian tribes, which later on the Alans (who were likely Massagetae) took advantage of as they started to call themselves that dialectal form of "Aryan" to unify all the tribes.

They inhabited steppes/flatlands on which every 50 years some horde of nomads would invade and plunder/kill everything in sight. It's no surprise that the biggest linguistic clusterfucks are in the Caucasus, a region with conditions in which a language/culture could withstand large geopolitical changes taking place. 

Yeah, what you say is quite true, the nomads were very "barbaric" in general and every once a while would invade territories and just kill and plunder. I think the Huns and old Kazakhs did that to Sarmatians and Scythians, they started going into their territories by raiding and plundering, and they just killed afterwards. Could be that way as Kazakhs are just Siberian plus a bit West Asian (Modern iranian-like) without any Andronovo admixture.

By the way, there were some Iranic people in modern Hungary up until the 1400s, probably descendants of some Scythian tribe, look it up. Also, there's debate on whether Bulgars were Iranian or an amalgamation of tribes among which some were Iranian. It's not like they suddenly ceased to exist.

Yeah true, I knew that folk although I forgot them when I wrote op. I think they eventually forgot their Aryan/Alanic derived language, but still preserve the identity.