people who think they are schooling fat guys by saying "calories in calories out"

[ascended master]

eat fewer calories or don't, but it is 100% calories in calories out, only fat tubs of shit debate that.

do some research, it's not that simple

either way, the thread is not about that, but about people failing to notice the problem here is 95% about self-control, so mental, and 5% about some biological concepts that are beyond the grasp for the average "just inject T, bro" internet imbecile.

everyone who has ever been dealing with this fucking knows it's (mostly) about eating less, yet users keep giving that advice from an imaginary high ground like fat people decided to just eat to much because they are masochists

the issue i am aware of is that the byproduct of any treatment for weight disorders is unnecessary cellular damage 

so, any compulsive behavior (including compulsive eating) is improperly synchronized signals in certain areas of the brain. a wreck, unbalanced feedback. so overeating can definitely be treated, but what type of medication does it other than nicotine i am not sure (which isn't safe either)

going back to nicotine. certain nicotinic receptors target sites where the feeling of satiety is produced, through replacing binding of it the appetite is suppressed

other targeted sites are responsible for producing physiological response to bodily motion. this can function well in aiding for weight loss by placing false demands of unnecessary energy load, overstraining the body which causes the subject to start losing weight at rest. but then again, cellular damage is a real issue