why is white culture so superior
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(24-01-2025, 02:14 AM)TableForOnePlease Wrote: @M1NT

I looked up /pol/ just for you so Politically Incorrect section of 4chan. Can you not make the connection that these same groypers are also on other platforms? Like on X, which is what I actually browse. Doesn't mean I'm absorbing the content they're posting and what they're saying. Like I said, you're projecting as you've admitted you've spent quite some time in that side of the internet. I have common, shared views at times, but they're my views.
you literally admitted to browsing 4chan, its hilarious that you keep acting like youve never heard of it before:
Quote:i might go back to browsing 4chan




Quote:And no, you didn't recognize Han Chinese was more of an artificial, unifying idea and identity. You literally said it has to be one or the either: 56 ethnic groups or absorbed into China -- which is not true. They might identify with their ethnic group on the ground, but the vast majority don't see themselves separate from the Han. 
yup and I specifically said that in response to you: 
Quote:uhh elementary understanding of what really went on. the Han Chinese were bottom class during their most recent dynasty under total domination by the Manchu in the Qing Dynasty. but the Manchu eventually got absorbed even after trying to preserve their own ethnic identity and limiting Han populations into Manchuria. after all, that is the Chinese way and why they house 56 ethnic groups that all basically call themselves han. and why there's a decent genetic and linguistic disparity between northern and southern Han because they aren't the same and they all got absorbed. I believe there is an inherent danger with this but I don't really care. Koreans surviving this mess is actually pretty impressive --  but cucked/sold themselves in the latter half of history, kowtowing to the Manchu. 
according to you: "oh no! theres an inherent danger in how china is absorbing all these different ethnic groups!"

youre the one who's overplaying the "danger of absorption", not me. I was always arguing that the minority groups in china have a nuanced, layered approach to how they understand their identity. below are my words, even though youre trying to twist them around:
Quote:also its funny that youre saying everyone gets absorbed into china, yet admit theres still 56 different ethnic groups lol. its either one or the other, both cant be true at once
you claim that these 56 ethnic groups are in danger of being absorbed into china (and even claimed that korea was lucky to escape from this), but the reality is that these ethnic groups in china arent as threatened as you act like they are, as evidenced by the fact that they still exist. youre trying to make china seem more oppressive than it really is. the real issue at hand is that youre overplaying the degree and reality of these ethnic groups being "absorbed" in order to fit your narrative of "CHINA BAD!". and of course as ive been continuously bringing up, youre hypocritical about this because you give the west a free pass for violently wiping out numerous cultures around the world but then you condemn china for gradually absorbing different cultures in its regional vicinity (and not even doing a good job of actually absorbing them, unlike the west which completely wiped out many native cultures and people)

Quote:Once again, you're overthinking why I mentioned only two dynasties. I mentioned the most recent one and long-lasting one in response to why China didn't swallow Korea and Japan. Which has logical fallacies because the Han (the group that is dominant today) weren't the group in charge then. And the Yuan Dynasty was the only Chinese dynasty (once again foreign-ruled) that defeated the northern Barbarians in Manchuria and could even attempt to get to Japan, but they were unsuccessful. Literally answered your question. 
no, im not overthinking this. I was right about this and you know it. ive been arguing that the history between china, korea and japan is more nuanced than simply "CHINA BAD!", and the nuance of this relationship can be seen if you examine the developments that happened over thirteen dynasties of history. on the other hand youre literally cherry picking history by only picking two dynasties (which even you admit werent actual chinese dynasties) and using these as examples of how china had been a threat to korea and japan. do you even know what youre saying anymore?

according to you, china is a threat because it absorbs all of its neighbors, but china (in some form or another, over thirteen dynasties of history) has failed to absorb korea, or many other cultures surrounding china, its almost like they werent trying to absorb them in the first place. the historical reality of china's relationship with its neighbors is much different than the distorted version of china that youve previously talked about:
Quote:i'd never align myself with china. maybe i'll get behind singapore or another asian country but china, no. worst actor in all of asia, constantly trying to subjugate their own neighboring asian countries, steal resources, and claim history (that they don't even know, as they burned much of it during the cultural revolution)
and of course its ironic that you badmouth china meanwhile you idolize the west which has historically violently invaded the entire world and destroyed (not even absorbed) many different foreign cultures

Quote:And no, I don't really care about what happened in the past. Everything had to happen exactly the way it did for things to be as they are now. Black Americans can complain about slavery, but they wouldn't have been born if it didn't happen. Same goes for Koreans constantly crying about Imperial Japan rule. I wrote my thoughts on this in my first thread, which you attributed to me using ChatGPT but no, I can actually think for myself.

I don't need an objective reason. China, bad. West, slightly better. Is all I really need to go off of. You won't get anywhere just consumed by your thoughts on what is fair, equal, and what happened in the past. Literally look at the state of the West Nothing is perfectly objective, as much as you're trying to make your argument to be. All systems have flaws. I've picked my side as of now, but that can change tomorrow.
no, youre missing the point. im not pointing out your hypocrisy regarding china and the west because im consumed by thoughts on whats fair, equal and whats happened in the past, rather im doing this to demonstrate that you havent really thought through your political views (since theyre probably not yours to begin with, everything you say is exactly what /pol/ or 4chan chuds say). notably, you cant give an objective reason why you celebrate the violence of the west on an international scale but condemn china's supposed violence which happened on a much smaller scale. ive asked you this numerous times and you still cant give a straight answer, instead you just dance around the question or ignore it.

I want you to consider the fact that youre intentionally sharing your political views here with the objective being to influence people and stimulate thinking, but why should people take your political views/insights seriously when they lack internal consistency? would you take someone seriously if they had views that completely contradicted each other? youre basically admitting that your political views are completely based upon your feelings and not facts, so why would someone want to listen to someone whose political views are based on emotions? its clear that you have an emotionally biased view of the west and youre not thinking about it objectively

Quote:literally answered this that's it's a half truth thread and title but you're repeating the same thing. you don't need to believe me, but I don't take you seriously either. 
sure bro, sounds like a half truth to me:
Quote:the attire. the dances. the music. the synchrony. the faces. the bodies. i'm trying to look at it from a non-biased POV having grown up in the west and well aware of the culture of the others, but i can't help but understand why they dominated the world and why the world revolves around them.
you sound pretty serious here. also youve been arguing with me for over a week now because I originally commented to tyger that you were a cringey pro-white asian, it wasnt even addressed to you and I had totally forgotten I had written that, but you were so butthurt that you wrote a wall of text to me about it two weeks later, and youre still arguing with me now, it seems like you take me pretty seriously lol


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why is white culture so superior - by 3ofspade - 27-09-2024, 01:24 AM
RE: why is white culture so superior - by Honest - 27-09-2024, 02:37 AM
RE: why is white culture so superior - by n9wiff - 18-10-2024, 04:54 PM
RE: why is white culture so superior - by n9wiff - 18-10-2024, 04:57 PM
RE: why is white culture so superior - by M1NT - 29-12-2024, 07:17 AM
RE: why is white culture so superior - by M1NT - 16-01-2025, 04:47 AM
RE: why is white culture so superior - by M1NT - 29-12-2024, 08:59 AM
RE: why is white culture so superior - by M1NT - 16-01-2025, 11:30 AM
RE: why is white culture so superior - by M1NT - 17-01-2025, 11:05 AM
RE: why is white culture so superior - by M1NT - 18-01-2025, 11:09 PM
RE: why is white culture so superior - by M1NT - 20-01-2025, 02:42 AM
RE: why is white culture so superior - by M1NT - 21-01-2025, 10:55 PM
RE: why is white culture so superior - by M1NT - 23-01-2025, 11:32 AM
RE: why is white culture so superior - by M1NT - 23-01-2025, 09:08 PM
RE: why is white culture so superior - by M1NT - 24-01-2025, 09:12 AM
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