thoughts on HINDUISM? i think its legit

[Born2Mog]

i just got a free copy of Bhagavad Gita.

haven't researched it that much, but i actually do have immense respect for hindu/sanskrit scholars and their religious tradition.

i find it extremely cringe that without fail, every single nonwestern culture in the world larps western values and ideological framework. 

"that is not really a thing, togo is a very advanced, modern country. Maybe in 1960. Superstition is a vestige of the past. We believe in the scientific model."

what im pretty sure is legit:

- its from 10k+ years ago

- the complexity of the literature and linguistic structure is an anomaly in conventional model of human prehistory. 

- cosmic cycles are, ufos, anomalies, ect are legit. lots of correlation and support from modern research

- some of the gods are real (tbh i don't want to fuck with them, they scare me)

thoughts? is it worth reading?
@brocode

[10khitman]

Anything with multiple gods is nonsensical

like its objectively not logically sound

[brocode]

hinduism is more like a way of life, and hinduism in its current modern form is crap trust me

i live among "brahmins" (the priest caste of hinduism), i learnt sanskrit in school from a very young age (i went to a conservative school), and i've read multiple sacred texts both english and sanskrit, and i went further deep into my research than most "religious" hindus ever will.

i will tell u the good takeaways first:

- its texts, the bhagavad gita, mahabharata, and ramayana. they are excellent stories -- full of gray characters and high philosophy, which i legit admire, even the "good guys" are extremely gray and hypocritical. and it is up to the reader to have their own interpretation. which is GOOD but at the same time terrible since most indian retards lack the basic apprehension skills to know what to do with their life, let alone have a sense of ethics within themselves, im not saying all of them lack this, but MOST lack it, its true, otherwise india wouldn't be a shithole like it is.

- most of the science is ray peat tier, a lot of which i disagree with personally, but yeah the science is out there, and its something i guess.

- basically all these subsections are in the form of "vedas" or basically like a foundation text, u can read about them to fascinate urself and mire. i do that sometimes myself and its fun/cool to see how people lived a certain way.

bad things/terribly implemented things:

- despite being so gray/accepting of differences in human nature, it segregates people a lot via caste (i hope u know what caste system is) and that ultimately defies Darwinism (which i consider the ultimate form of nature).
the best in nature wins and ought to win.
imagine a soldier caste guy not being able to do business despite being a natual at it, because he needs to be "a soldier for life", thats so stupid to me. of course modern day caste segregation is different is different but in its core original foundation, it has this flawed system.

- awful eugenics, its eugenics system is based on caste and in theory it sounds cool but in reality u wont see a difference between a low caste guy and a high caste guy in terms of looks or iq. its super random. u will see a very good looking skinny fair low caste guy and a very dark fat high caste guy.

- modern day orthodox** hindus dont consume meat, its retarded as shit, nowhere in any script of hinduism has it been mentioned that meat/beef consumption is banned. the cow worship is only to cows that are ""I'm a creepy obese loser"", basically meaning cows that can bear birth should be used to make more calves and not killed for meat consumption. thats it. modern day orthodox hindus dont get it. they are dumb as hell i told u.

yeah that's a small gist.

[Born2Mog]

hinduism is more like a way of life, and hinduism in its current modern form is crap trust me

i live among "brahmins" (the priest caste of hinduism), i learnt sanskrit in school from a very young age (i went to a conservative school), and i've read multiple sacred texts both english and sanskrit, and i went further deep into my research than most "religious" hindus ever will.

i will tell u the good takeaways first:

- its texts, the bhagavad gita, mahabharata, and ramayana. they are excellent stories -- full of gray characters and high philosophy, which i legit admire, even the "good guys" are extremely gray and hypocritical. and it is up to the reader to have their own interpretation. which is GOOD but at the same time terrible since most indian retards lack the basic apprehension skills to know what to do with their life, let alone have a sense of ethics within themselves, im not saying all of them lack this, but MOST lack it, its true, otherwise india wouldn't be a shithole like it is.

- most of the science is ray peat tier, a lot of which i disagree with personally, but yeah the science is out there, and its something i guess.

- basically all these subsections are in the form of "vedas" or basically like a foundation text, u can read about them to fascinate urself and mire. i do that sometimes myself and its fun/cool to see how people lived a certain way.

bad things/terribly implemented things:

- despite being so gray/accepting of differences in human nature, it segregates people a lot via caste (i hope u know what caste system is) and that ultimately defies Darwinism (which i consider the ultimate form of nature).
the best in nature wins and ought to win.
imagine a soldier caste guy not being able to do business despite being a natual at it, because he needs to be "a soldier for life", thats so stupid to me. of course modern day caste segregation is different is different but in its core original foundation, it has this flawed system.

- awful eugenics, its eugenics system is based on caste and in theory it sounds cool but in reality u wont see a difference between a low caste guy and a high caste guy in terms of looks or iq. its super random. u will see a very good looking skinny fair low caste guy and a very dark fat high caste guy.

- modern day orthodox** hindus dont consume meat, its retarded as shit, nowhere in any script of hinduism has it been mentioned that meat/beef consumption is banned. the cow worship is only to cows that are ""I'm a creepy obese loser"", basically meaning cows that can bear birth should be used to make more calves and not killed for meat consumption. thats it. modern day orthodox hindus dont get it. they are dumb as hell i told u.

yeah that's a small gist.

detailed response i appreciate 


- i don't believe in worshipping cows, being "shudra" , bathing in shit water worshipping the rat gods ect and no book can convince me, legit. 

don't have any thought out opinions on indian society. Wasn't brahmin caste originally meant to maintain the indo-aryan race?

- you think sanskrit worth learning? can you speak it and do you ever meet fellow speakers and bond bc of it? It's awesome how it has bigger extant literature than latin (RIP latin) Occasionally read of western scientists who are super into it, who vouch for it 100%

- highly skeptical of neo-darwinism evolution theory, though it could be true. Though heritability, natural selective mechanisms ect are obviously legit. mayb will write a thread and tag u

- thoughts on micheal cremo? seems interesting but never looked deep into it. I haven't heard of any other hindu researchers, forefront of science is in west and a little bit soviet sphere. I moreso mean science that is suggestive/doesn't contradict as expected than straight up science confirming hindu beliefs (ex. global consiousness @ stanford) My impression is the sanskrit texts have a degree of interesting knowledge that possibly will be re-discovered in the future, if not something to take at face value. Interested in all ancient sources.

[brocode]

hinduism is more like a way of life, and hinduism in its current modern form is crap trust me

i live among "brahmins" (the priest caste of hinduism), i learnt sanskrit in school from a very young age (i went to a conservative school), and i've read multiple sacred texts both english and sanskrit, and i went further deep into my research than most "religious" hindus ever will.

i will tell u the good takeaways first:

- its texts, the bhagavad gita, mahabharata, and ramayana. they are excellent stories -- full of gray characters and high philosophy, which i legit admire, even the "good guys" are extremely gray and hypocritical. and it is up to the reader to have their own interpretation. which is GOOD but at the same time terrible since most indian retards lack the basic apprehension skills to know what to do with their life, let alone have a sense of ethics within themselves, im not saying all of them lack this, but MOST lack it, its true, otherwise india wouldn't be a shithole like it is.

- most of the science is ray peat tier, a lot of which i disagree with personally, but yeah the science is out there, and its something i guess.

- basically all these subsections are in the form of "vedas" or basically like a foundation text, u can read about them to fascinate urself and mire. i do that sometimes myself and its fun/cool to see how people lived a certain way.

bad things/terribly implemented things:

- despite being so gray/accepting of differences in human nature, it segregates people a lot via caste (i hope u know what caste system is) and that ultimately defies Darwinism (which i consider the ultimate form of nature).
the best in nature wins and ought to win.
imagine a soldier caste guy not being able to do business despite being a natual at it, because he needs to be "a soldier for life", thats so stupid to me. of course modern day caste segregation is different is different but in its core original foundation, it has this flawed system.

- awful eugenics, its eugenics system is based on caste and in theory it sounds cool but in reality u wont see a difference between a low caste guy and a high caste guy in terms of looks or iq. its super random. u will see a very good looking skinny fair low caste guy and a very dark fat high caste guy.

- modern day orthodox** hindus dont consume meat, its retarded as shit, nowhere in any script of hinduism has it been mentioned that meat/beef consumption is banned. the cow worship is only to cows that are ""I'm a creepy obese loser"", basically meaning cows that can bear birth should be used to make more calves and not killed for meat consumption. thats it. modern day orthodox hindus dont get it. they are dumb as hell i told u.

yeah that's a small gist.

detailed response i appreciate 


- i don't believe in worshipping cows, being "shudra" , bathing in shit water worshipping the rat gods ect and no book can convince me, legit. 

don't have any thought out opinions on indian society. Wasn't brahmin caste originally meant to maintain the indo-aryan race?

- you think sanskrit worth learning? can you speak it and do you ever meet fellow speakers and bond bc of it? It's awesome how it has bigger extant literature than latin (RIP latin) Occasionally read of western scientists who are super into it, who vouch for it 100%

- highly skeptical of neo-darwinism evolution theory, though it could be true. Though heritability, natural selective mechanisms ect are obviously legit. mayb will write a thread and tag u

- thoughts on micheal cremo? seems interesting but never looked deep into it. I haven't heard of any other hindu researchers, forefront of science is in west and a little bit soviet sphere. I moreso mean science that is suggestive/doesn't contradict as expected than straight up science confirming hindu beliefs (ex. global consiousness @ stanford) My impression is the sanskrit texts have a degree of interesting knowledge that possibly will be re-discovered in the future, if not something to take at face value. Interested in all ancient sources.

No Brahmin caste wasn’t created to preserve any specific type of gene, it’s basically some high retards (yes high as in weed) telling Themselves “fuck it we are not gonna let anyone else be priests” and creating a “caste”. Caste is based on occupation and once u r born with a caste u r stuck with it. And i still don’t understand the point of caste, like it doesn’t clearly preserve any genes, people still fuck each other from other castes through whatever means as long as Lookz prevail.
It’s like RedPill tier Eugenics gone wrong. As silly as it sounds, it’s literally that.
I’m emphasizing on the word Priest because back in the day, only priests were highly educated and the public had to depend on the priests if they wanted to know anything. They were also the think tanks for most kings. Basically they figured out Knowledge is power and circlejerked themselves in all positions of authority.
Caste nepotism, be it certain high caste, middle caste, or whatever, still runs high to this day (it is true).

Depends on why you wanna learn Sanskrit, no one really “speaks Sanskrit”, like yeah I can read Sanskrit and understand stuff fluently and speak it a bit too I guess but no one really does that. Legit no one, most Sanskrit scholars themselves just use it as a way to read untranslated texts that’s all nothing more.
So if you want to read something and highly interested, then yeah go for it.
But no one speaks it.

Yeah my Sanskrit teacher has told us a bunch of stuff that was discovered in western society that has been a thing in the Vedic periods, not particularly just one thing but a few. Most work on Sanskrit Text Research and Translation is done in Russia Unironically not in India, he also told us that, he has a PhD in Sanskrit so I trust him in this aspect.

Russian also sounds very similar to Sanskrit phonetically, some Russian words are straight up from Sanskrit.

I haven’t heard of Michael Cremo, I’ll look into him.

[Lucy]

Egyptian religions are legit, not sure about anything else

[Lucy]

quote I've on Bhagavad Gita

“When the family is destroyed, the ancient laws of family duty cease; when law ceases, lawlessness overwhelms the family; when lawlessness overwhelms the women of the family, they become corrupted; when women are corrupted, the intermixture of castes is the inevitable result. Intermixture of castes drags down to hell both those who destroy the family and the family itself; the spirits of the ancestors fall, deprived of their offerings of rice and water. Such are the evils caused by those who destroy the family: because of the intermixture of castes, caste duties are obliterated and the permanent duties of the family as well.”

[10khitman]

Egyptian religions are legit, not sure about anything else

In what world

Where did archimedes go you guys all got retarded

[Lucy]

Egyptian religions are legit, not sure about anything else

In what world

Where did archimedes go you guys all got retarded

cope

[Born2Mog]

Egyptian religions are legit, not sure about anything else

In what world

Where did archimedes go you guys all got retarded

cope

give tdlr on this

curious

[Lucy]

give tdlr on this

curious

search Hermes Trismegistus

[Lucy]

Kek(uit) or Heqet is also legit/notable