Germans are so stubborn

[Mr. Golgonto]

The internet here is appalling for the biggest economy in europe

Most of the country still uses physical paperwork. why?

A good proportion of vendors still don't accept card. again, why?

Real odd country in many ways. Shopkeepers are overtly rude to people or dismissive on a level that would get you fired in the UK. Maybe that's more of an eastern thing, which would make sense.

It's like the country is completely torn between luddite conservatism and progressive environmentalism.

[lonelyjak]

The internet here is appalling for the biggest economy in europe

Most of the country still uses physical paperwork. why?

A good proportion of vendors still don't accept card. again, why?

Real odd country in many ways. Shopkeepers are overtly rude to people or dismissive on a level that would get you fired in the UK. Maybe that's more of an eastern thing, which would make sense.

It's like the country is completely torn between luddite conservatism and progressive environmentalism.

I often wonder if residual germanic personality traits still exist in the US since we have a large population descended from germans

[Mr. Golgonto]

The internet here is appalling for the biggest economy in europe

Most of the country still uses physical paperwork. why?

A good proportion of vendors still don't accept card. again, why?

Real odd country in many ways. Shopkeepers are overtly rude to people or dismissive on a level that would get you fired in the UK. Maybe that's more of an eastern thing, which would make sense.

It's like the country is completely torn between luddite conservatism and progressive environmentalism.

I often wonder if residual germanic personality traits still exist in the US since we have a large population descended from germans

Most people tried to distance themselves from their German ancestry during the wars. Idk, Americans have forged their own culture; it's so different from europe i'd probably say no. Obviously massively generalizing, but Americans are more comfortable sitting at the forefront of things. Germans are still very conservative in a way, especially here in the east. The younger generation are very environmentally active but they've definitely still inherited that work anxiety. Most of them are incredibly overworked and stressed.

[lonelyjak]

The internet here is appalling for the biggest economy in europe

Most of the country still uses physical paperwork. why?

A good proportion of vendors still don't accept card. again, why?

Real odd country in many ways. Shopkeepers are overtly rude to people or dismissive on a level that would get you fired in the UK. Maybe that's more of an eastern thing, which would make sense.

It's like the country is completely torn between luddite conservatism and progressive environmentalism.

I often wonder if residual germanic personality traits still exist in the US since we have a large population descended from germans

Most people tried to distance themselves from their German ancestry during the wars. Idk, Americans have forged their own culture; it's so different from europe i'd probably say no. Obviously massively generalizing, but Americans are more comfortable sitting at the forefront of things. Germans are still very conservative in a way, especially here in the east. The younger generation are very environmentally active but they've definitely still inherited that work anxiety. Most of them are incredibly overworked and stressed.

that doesnt disprove what I said though. I was musing if there were residual personality traits. I was never making the argument that undiluted germanic personality traits still exist in the american psyche. if americans forged their own culture then where did that come from? out of the ether? its only rational to posit that the american cultural mindset is a pastiche of all the different european immigrant groups that settled here, among which germans were a major immigrant group.

there is something vaguely germanic about many other americans ive met (personality wise), but I cant put my finger on it exactly. I dont rule out that maybe im just imagining it either though

[prince of shitskins]

if i had to guess, maybe it's because a lot of them are asiatic rapebabies? 

not even trying to be insulting

but what you said pretty much goes for every country, tbh. there are days here when i think NZ should be sunk to the bottom of the ocean because everyone here is a sociopathic piece of shit, and other days where i think maybe i just have a victim complex/confirmation bias

it usually depends what sector people are in...  public/private, etc... here everyone working in healthcare (public and private), for example, is a massive irredeemable piece of shit

but small business owners are usually nice

idk

tomorrow you will go out and people will be friendly and you will do a 180 on your views... or not.. ive never been to europe

[Steppenwolf]

The internet here is appalling for the biggest economy in europe

Most of the country still uses physical paperwork. why?

A good proportion of vendors still don't accept card. again, why?

Real odd country in many ways. Shopkeepers are overtly rude to people or dismissive on a level that would get you fired in the UK. Maybe that's more of an eastern thing, which would make sense.

It's like the country is completely torn between luddite conservatism and progressive environmentalism.

I often wonder if residual germanic personality traits still exist in the US since we have a large population descended from germans

Most people tried to distance themselves from their German ancestry during the wars. Idk, Americans have forged their own culture; it's so different from europe i'd probably say no. Obviously massively generalizing, but Americans are more comfortable sitting at the forefront of things. Germans are still very conservative in a way, especially here in the east. The younger generation are very environmentally active but they've definitely still inherited that work anxiety. Most of them are incredibly overworked and stressed.

that doesnt disprove what I said though. I was musing if there were residual personality traits. I was never making the argument that undiluted germanic personality traits still exist in the american psyche. if americans forged their own culture then where did that come from? out of the ether? its only rational to posit that the american cultural mindset is a pastiche of all the different european immigrant groups that settled here, among which germans were a major immigrant group.

there is something vaguely germanic about many other americans ive met (personality wise), but I cant put my finger on it exactly. I dont rule out that maybe im just imagining it either though

there's no definable 'culture', the point is for it to be an on going experiment

[lonelyjak]

I often wonder if residual germanic personality traits still exist in the US since we have a large population descended from germans

Most people tried to distance themselves from their German ancestry during the wars. Idk, Americans have forged their own culture; it's so different from europe i'd probably say no. Obviously massively generalizing, but Americans are more comfortable sitting at the forefront of things. Germans are still very conservative in a way, especially here in the east. The younger generation are very environmentally active but they've definitely still inherited that work anxiety. Most of them are incredibly overworked and stressed.

that doesnt disprove what I said though. I was musing if there were residual personality traits. I was never making the argument that undiluted germanic personality traits still exist in the american psyche. if americans forged their own culture then where did that come from? out of the ether? its only rational to posit that the american cultural mindset is a pastiche of all the different european immigrant groups that settled here, among which germans were a major immigrant group.

there is something vaguely germanic about many other americans ive met (personality wise), but I cant put my finger on it exactly. I dont rule out that maybe im just imagining it either though

there's no definable 'culture', the point is for it to be an on going experiment

that doesnt disprove what im saying. america having no definable culture doesnt invalidate my suggestion that there are possible residual germanic personality/cultural traits in the broader american culture

[Steppenwolf]

Most people tried to distance themselves from their German ancestry during the wars. Idk, Americans have forged their own culture; it's so different from europe i'd probably say no. Obviously massively generalizing, but Americans are more comfortable sitting at the forefront of things. Germans are still very conservative in a way, especially here in the east. The younger generation are very environmentally active but they've definitely still inherited that work anxiety. Most of them are incredibly overworked and stressed.

that doesnt disprove what I said though. I was musing if there were residual personality traits. I was never making the argument that undiluted germanic personality traits still exist in the american psyche. if americans forged their own culture then where did that come from? out of the ether? its only rational to posit that the american cultural mindset is a pastiche of all the different european immigrant groups that settled here, among which germans were a major immigrant group.

there is something vaguely germanic about many other americans ive met (personality wise), but I cant put my finger on it exactly. I dont rule out that maybe im just imagining it either though

there's no definable 'culture', the point is for it to be an on going experiment

that doesnt disprove what im saying. america having no definable culture doesnt invalidate my suggestion that there are possible residual germanic personality/cultural traits in the broader american culture

it does because Germany has a culture and it shines through any lineage left in foreign soil. however, this does not last in America, so i will my point better, America is precisely anti-culture

[lonelyjak]

that doesnt disprove what I said though. I was musing if there were residual personality traits. I was never making the argument that undiluted germanic personality traits still exist in the american psyche. if americans forged their own culture then where did that come from? out of the ether? its only rational to posit that the american cultural mindset is a pastiche of all the different european immigrant groups that settled here, among which germans were a major immigrant group.

there is something vaguely germanic about many other americans ive met (personality wise), but I cant put my finger on it exactly. I dont rule out that maybe im just imagining it either though

there's no definable 'culture', the point is for it to be an on going experiment

that doesnt disprove what im saying. america having no definable culture doesnt invalidate my suggestion that there are possible residual germanic personality/cultural traits in the broader american culture

it does because Germany has a culture and it shines through any lineage left in foreign soil. however, this does not last in America, so i will my point better, America is precisely anti-culture

youre making a statement of opinion not fact. there is no way you can definitively prove this 

america being anti-culture is also an opinion, one that I happen to agree with, but the fact that america is anti-culture doesnt mean that it completely wipes out the vestiges of various founder cultures that constitute what we consider as american culture

also I didnt explicitly state this earlier but I did very subtly suggest this; what about the genetic component of behavior? if we assume that racial behavioral differences exist then it makes sense that on this broader spectrum of race there must also exist ingrained ethnic behavioral differences. ergo, assuming that race/ethnicity is related to behavior on a genetic level then as long as germanic genes exist in the american genepool then there will be traces (to varying degrees) of genetic german behavior as well. accordingly this influence would be impervious to any kind of anti-culture

[Steppenwolf]

there's no definable 'culture', the point is for it to be an on going experiment

that doesnt disprove what im saying. america having no definable culture doesnt invalidate my suggestion that there are possible residual germanic personality/cultural traits in the broader american culture

it does because Germany has a culture and it shines through any lineage left in foreign soil. however, this does not last in America, so i will my point better, America is precisely anti-culture

youre making a statement of opinion not fact. there is no way you can definitively prove this 

america being anti-culture is also an opinion, one that I happen to agree with, but the fact that america is anti-culture doesnt mean that it completely wipes out the vestiges of various founder cultures that constitute what we consider as american culture

also I didnt explicitly state this earlier but I did very subtly suggest this; what about the genetic component of behavior? if we assume that racial behavioral differences exist then it makes sense that on this broader spectrum of race there must also exist ingrained ethnic behavioral differences. ergo, assuming that race/ethnicity is related to behavior on a genetic level then as long as germanic genes exist in the american genepool then there will be traces (to varying degrees) of genetic german behavior as well. accordingly this influence would be impervious to any kind of anti-culture

i do believe in mental phenotypes that are spread to races, but i don't see it drawing itself specific in cultures, unless its preserved throughout generations. i don't think you can find any similarity between African americans and Africans for example

[lonelyjak]

that doesnt disprove what im saying. america having no definable culture doesnt invalidate my suggestion that there are possible residual germanic personality/cultural traits in the broader american culture

it does because Germany has a culture and it shines through any lineage left in foreign soil. however, this does not last in America, so i will my point better, America is precisely anti-culture

youre making a statement of opinion not fact. there is no way you can definitively prove this 

america being anti-culture is also an opinion, one that I happen to agree with, but the fact that america is anti-culture doesnt mean that it completely wipes out the vestiges of various founder cultures that constitute what we consider as american culture

also I didnt explicitly state this earlier but I did very subtly suggest this; what about the genetic component of behavior? if we assume that racial behavioral differences exist then it makes sense that on this broader spectrum of race there must also exist ingrained ethnic behavioral differences. ergo, assuming that race/ethnicity is related to behavior on a genetic level then as long as germanic genes exist in the american genepool then there will be traces (to varying degrees) of genetic german behavior as well. accordingly this influence would be impervious to any kind of anti-culture

i do believe in mental phenotypes that are spread to races, but i don't see it drawing itself specific in cultures, unless its preserved throughout generations. i don't think you can find any similarity between African americans and Africans for example

thats illogical, ethnicities are just a smaller scale version of race. northern europeans and southern europeans are both "white" but they still diverge genetically. did you really think the different ethnicities of europeans are all one homogenous white genotype with different cultural veneers? come on now...