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tldr:
1. took a day off
2. went to buy 2 bottles before my mom comes back from work
3. took the basement keys to put the bottles there, go upstairs and check if she came back in the meantime
4. bought the wine, but couldnt bother being careful and hiding them there first
5. of course, i enter the apartment and realize she fucking came home in those 3.5 minutes of me being absent
6. she is high iq, so she just told me to take the bottles out of the bag and that i m now paying her 500 EUR per bottle
7. boring back and forth about how she won't tolerate an alcoholic in her place
8. as desperate as i am, i take the basement keys and go outside, telling her im going to get a haircut
9. i go outside, buy 2 more bottles and hide them in my basement (didnt put much effort into it, so it will take her aprox 30 seconds to find them; i drank one in one chug, though)
10. i come upstairs, tell her my hairdresser isn't working
11. (see 6) she asks me where are the basement keys and tells me to give it to her
12. i comply
chances are (95%) that she knows exactly what i did, so she'll keep those keys away from me until she checks the basement
the thing is, i have one more thing to do outside this afternoon, so i can salvage myself from getting thrown out of the place if i somehow manage to pull the bottles out of the basement; the main door is open for now, but the problem is the structure of our basement section - the bottles are like 2 m in and covered with heavy stuff, and there's barely any space between the wooden bars protecting it. how the fuck do i get those bottles out manually without opening the basement? (assuming the main door stays opened for a couple of hours)?
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this is like the thread i waited for ever since signing up to a forum like this again
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(08-04-2026, 03:06 PM)bluerose Wrote: this is like the thread i waited for ever since signing up to a forum like this again

tnx
(18-09-2025, 06:49 PM)MVP Wrote: i already said, rӏ is built different
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(08-04-2026, 02:36 PM)hitlersblackedwaifu Wrote: ...
give me some s tier engineering tier shit, kath. this is urgent, btw
(18-09-2025, 06:49 PM)MVP Wrote: i already said, rӏ is built different
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my only actual advice is don't damage ur relationship with ur mom by treating her like a dumb child when dat's u
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not turning into an actual alcoholic is basic eq shit, so she mogs u in dat regard, just listen to everything she says and don't pull any "i'm an adult and do what i want" bs to da woman who lovingly raised u
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engineers only, please
(18-09-2025, 06:49 PM)MVP Wrote: i already said, rӏ is built different
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learn magic and use telekinetic grab
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(08-04-2026, 03:13 PM)numb digger Wrote: learn magic and use telekinetic grab
you know what's funny? when i sober up from that 1 l in half an hour, i'll go down and think of a solution
obviously, it won't solve my problem in the long term, but this specific one will be taken care of
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cuz at da end of da day u cud easily move out and turn into a full blown alcoholic and she cuden't stop u, but dat's not da point, it's not abt control or even social bs, it's abt her not wanting to see her son turn his own body and mind to shit, cuz she wants u happy and healthy as an adult.
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(08-04-2026, 03:14 PM)Altruist Wrote: you know what's funny? when i sober up from that 1 l in half an hour, i'll go down and think of a solution
obviously, it won't solve my problem in the long term, but this specific one will be taken care of
try asking chatgpt
just quit drinking
think of the mental/physical gains
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(08-04-2026, 03:16 PM)numb digger Wrote: try asking chatgpt
high. fucking. iq.
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I'm here to end your suffering
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Quote:I’m going to be direct: trying to retrieve and conceal those bottles is not the move that improves your situation. It escalates the exact dynamic that is already putting your housing and stability at risk.
You’re dealing with two separate problems:
- Immediate conflict with your mother (control, trust, housing risk)
- Alcohol use that is already impairing your judgment and behavior
What you’re proposing addresses neither. It increases the probability of both getting worse.
Immediate reality check- She already assumes what happened. Whether you retrieve the bottles or not will not materially change her conclusion.
- If she finds you actively trying to bypass her (breaking into the basement section, fishing bottles through bars), the situation escalates from “argument about alcohol” to “deliberate deception and rule-breaking.”
- That is the scenario most likely to get you thrown out.
Higher-leverage move (today)
You need to shift from concealment → damage control.
Do this instead:- Stop the concealment attempt entirely.
- When the next interaction happens, do not argue facts (you will lose that).
- Use a controlled statement:
- Acknowledge behavior without dramatics.
- Do not justify or debate.
- Signal constraint (e.g., “I’ll handle it outside / I won’t bring it into the apartment.”)
This reduces escalation. It doesn’t solve the relationship, but it stabilizes it.
Structural issue (more important)
The pattern you described is not random:- impulsive purchase
- low effort concealment
- immediate consumption (“one in one chug”)
- escalating workaround after being caught
That is loss-of-control behavior, not just “bad planning.”
You asked earlier whether to tell your psychiatrist about alcohol use. The answer is yes, and this situation is exactly why:- You are making decisions under pressure that actively harm your living situation.
- The behavior is now visible to others (not contained).
Tactical alternative if you still need to leave the house today
If you must go out:- Go out without interacting with the basement at all
- Do what you need to do
- Return and avoid further escalation
Trying to “fix” the basement situation today is a trap. There is no clean win available from that path.
If you want something practical and forward-looking: I can help you design a short-term containment protocol (next 7–14 days) to stabilize alcohol use without requiring a full lifestyle overhaul. That would be materially useful given your current trajectory.
good thing i have 2+ sds on this shit
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