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If you have ever been BULLIED verbally then its likely that made you produce more testosterone . Being verbally bullied increases your testosterone levels
So if there is ONE BENEFIT of being bullied , then that is the fact that this experience androgenizes your brain, it makes you produce high testosterone.
It makes sense when you think about it actually, like this is natures way of telling you "man the fuck up" so it makes you produce more testosterone
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19021234/
Quote:Testosterone levels have been shown to decrease in the face of social defeat in several mammalian species. Among humans, the loss of social status has been studied primarily in the context of athletic competition, with winners having higher testosterone levels than losers. This study examined testosterone levels in relation to peer victimization (bullying) in a sample of 151 boys and girls aged 12-13. Statistically controlling for age and pubertal status, results indicated that on average verbally bullied girls produced less testosterone and verbally bullied boys produced more testosterone than their nonbullied counterparts. Similar trends were evident comparing social and physical bullying with testosterone. Sex differences are discussed in terms of empirically validated differences in coping styles, as girls tend to internalize, whereas boys tend to externalize, their abuse.
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I know this is something that is very conflicting to some of you guys "blackpill worldviews" btw so im expecting most of you to not believe in this at all . Perhaps because some of you are actually bullies and you want to believe that you made your victims "weaker n high E" or whatever and you didnt expect that the bullying you did would just make your victims produce more T
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I think it's irrelevant tho. Like eating cholesterol or having good digestion can "increase testosterone"
But what is the endgame? Slightly more testosterone (or even a lot) is not going to make any big difference honestly.
You can also observe this with other hormones, neurotransmitters, life events, etc.
Dark can increase serotonin, but so can food. But slightly changing things is not going to be groundbreaking.
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Also, if being verbally bullied increases testosterone then that begs the question if IT IS PART STRESS HORMONE.
Goes aginst the simple idea that it is ANTI CORTISOL if attacking another INCREASES IT.
You know what else being verbally bullied possibly increases? CORTISOL TOO.
Most bullied kids got higher stresses, trauma, life issues, etc. So a bit more test from boys isn't gonna make his life solved or greater. Most school shooters were stressed, so if testosterone is correlated with mass shooting then you have a case for ER maybe, or other types of people who GO FUCKING OUT THERE in some way/do CRAZY SHIT.
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For example, ABUSED DOG types often are always the case for school shooters/mass shooters and many were VERBALLY BULLIED. So it's not like they suddenly got more testosterone & became content/successful/etc. so simply as u put it. MASCULINIZED boys typically grew up with high estrogen, testosterone & maybe growth hromones too during puberty which can ALL BE STRESSFUL if overdone. High dose HGH can cause acromegaly and other deadly conditions and insulin resistance, etc. So part of being MASCULINE overlaps with BEING STRESSED in a physically obvious way.
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(19-06-2022, 12:35 AM)bookieboy Wrote: I think it's irrelevant tho. Like eating cholesterol or having good digestion can "increase testosterone"
But what is the endgame? Slightly more testosterone (or even a lot) is not going to make any big difference honestly.
You can also observe this with other hormones, neurotransmitters, life events, etc.
Dark can increase serotonin, but so can food. But slightly changing things is not going to be groundbreaking.
Yeah for sure, thats why pharmaceutical T is key. It increases your testosterone A LOT and not just SLIGHTLY. Like you can go from 700 to 2000 ng/dl with pharmaceutical T
2000 ng is TOP TIER levels, there is no man on earth who has that high levels naturally, only roiders have that. You will be T mogging every man around.
And as we all know . T have BIG EFFECT on social behaviour, social status, pheromones etc.
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(19-06-2022, 12:40 AM)Bookist Wrote: And as we all know . T have BIG EFFECT on social behaviour, social status, pheromones etc.
We ALL know this?
It's because they grew up that way/it had such an effect DURING PUBERY.
Past puberty a guy won't become the traiditonal or "classical" man just by abusing T later in life.
It can cause muscle gain, but pheromones are arguably non-existent in humans anyways. No studies confirm that a guy just injects and suddenly female respondents want to have sex with him/find him sexy when before they didn't.
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(19-06-2022, 12:43 AM)bookieboy Wrote: (19-06-2022, 12:40 AM)Bookist Wrote: And as we all know . T have BIG EFFECT on social behaviour, social status, pheromones etc.
We ALL know this?
It's because they grew up that way/it had such an effect DURING PUBERY.
Past puberty a guy won't become the traiditonal or "classical" man just by abusing T later in life.
It can cause muscle gain, but pheromones are arguably non-existent in humans anyways. No studies confirm that a guy just injects and suddenly female respondents want to have sex with him/find him sexy when before they didn't.
What are you talking about bruh Pheromones are science. Pheromones is a real thing
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(19-06-2022, 12:45 AM)Bookist Wrote: (19-06-2022, 12:43 AM)bookieboy Wrote: (19-06-2022, 12:40 AM)Bookist Wrote: And as we all know . T have BIG EFFECT on social behaviour, social status, pheromones etc.
We ALL know this?
It's because they grew up that way/it had such an effect DURING PUBERY.
Past puberty a guy won't become the traiditonal or "classical" man just by abusing T later in life.
It can cause muscle gain, but pheromones are arguably non-existent in humans anyways. No studies confirm that a guy just injects and suddenly female respondents want to have sex with him/find him sexy when before they didn't.
What are you talking about bruh Pheromones are science. Pheromones is a real thing
Show the human science confirming that pheromones from pharmaceutical testosterone makes an incel with no appeal become a slayer.
There is zero science that validates human pheromones as a result of hormone use in shifting attraction toward individual.
That shirt smelling one is useless sincw thwy did not have the women then see any men associated with "pheromones" but rather just had them smell a shirt.
Plus how can you explain women attracted to NON ROIDERS?
If you need roids to activatw these "pheromones" (from which you are incel without) then how can natty Chads still attract women if they are off gear? Or any other guys?
It is too inconsistent and unclear to prove PHEROMONES from ROIDS ALONE will suddenly make a guy attractive whom WAS NOT prior to roiding specifically.
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If every guy roids he will become a slayer?
But if every guy is a slayer then no guy is.
Keep dreaming LOL you can't make a truecel a Chad with a single hormone at one singlw instance in life
If you could then looks would play no role in sexual attraction WHICH WE HAVE EVIDENCE IT PLAYS THE BIGGEST ONE, "pheromones" aside.
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(19-06-2022, 12:49 AM)bookieboy Wrote: (19-06-2022, 12:45 AM)Bookist Wrote: (19-06-2022, 12:43 AM)bookieboy Wrote: (19-06-2022, 12:40 AM)Bookist Wrote: And as we all know . T have BIG EFFECT on social behaviour, social status, pheromones etc.
We ALL know this?
It's because they grew up that way/it had such an effect DURING PUBERY.
Past puberty a guy won't become the traiditonal or "classical" man just by abusing T later in life.
It can cause muscle gain, but pheromones are arguably non-existent in humans anyways. No studies confirm that a guy just injects and suddenly female respondents want to have sex with him/find him sexy when before they didn't.
What are you talking about bruh Pheromones are science. Pheromones is a real thing
Show the human science confirming that pheromones from pharmaceutical testosterone makes an incel with no appeal become a slayer.
There is zero science that validates human pheromones as a result of hormone use in shifting attraction toward individual.
That shirt smelling one is useless sincw thwy did not have the women then see any men associated with "pheromones" but rather just had them smell a shirt.
Plus how can you explain women attracted to NON ROIDERS?
If you need roids to activatw these "pheromones" (from which you are incel without) then how can natty Chads still attract women if they are off gear? Or any other guys?
It is too inconsistent and unclear to prove PHEROMONES from ROIDS ALONE will suddenly make a guy attractive whom WAS NOT prior to roiding specifically.
What I am saying is that PHEROMONES EXIST
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