This thought is killing me mentally, someone weigh in with a high IQ response

[n9wiff]

So everything we feel, from the color, taste, smell and touch of a certain material/object is 100 percent an illusion right?

So our entire perception of the universe is literally just our own made up biological illusions to respond to changes in our environment.

I've had these thoughts for a long time now but just now while I was eating, I was thinking about what the world "looks" like by itself.

The end of the problem :

It would "look" like nothing because for something to even register in our brains as an appearance or thing, it has to exist and be available to interact with our senses.

What does the universe feel like? 

Using our understanding of the way particles and physics work, I'd assume everything is literally just vibrations of different orders of magnitudes and types, coupled with lightwaves, whatever they are.

What does "nothing" look like?

Nothing, can't "look" like "anything" because it infact simply doesn't exist to us. The best we can describe nothing is pitch black. This however has nothing to do with "nothingness" as we only rationalise it to be this way due to again, restrictions brought upon by our own senses.

My theory is that most describe "nothingness" the way they do by subconsciously imagining that "nothing" = no perception of looks. The closest we get to no perception of sight is when being blinded by the dark completely or when we close our eyes in a dark room.

Thoughts? I need feedback since almost everything here is restricted to us, this is completely beyond everything "rational" to us.

[Sassy Doll]

One dude has proposed that the universe in fact is not the basic layer of reality.

Instead, it is consciousness. You start with consciousness and from there you explain why there is a universe.

[n9wiff]

ITT try your hardest to give me a response to what "nothingness" looks like 

OR

What the world "looks" like from a third person POV without biological sensory processes.

[Honest]

If you’re operating empirically, the claim that sensory experiences are “100% an illusion” is nonsensical, seeing as it would require you to have empirical knowledge of the existence of a non-illusionary reality, which would be impossible.

Secondly, You’re mistakenly conflating reductionism with illusion. Saying, “wow, I thought that thing over there was an elephant, but it’s actually just a collection of quarks!” is a misunderstanding of language.

Thirdly, I don’t see what “nothing” has to do with the first half of your post.

[n9wiff]

Secondly, You’re mistakenly conflating reductionism with illusion. Saying, “wow, I thought that thing over there was an elephant, but it’s actually just a collection of quarks!” is a misunderstanding of language.

That's a dumb exaggeration of what I was trying say. And those "collection of quarks" make up an elephant, duh. 

Trying to visualize nothingness I feel like is extremely similar to trying to visualize what the elements look like "raw" in a sense. 

If you’re operating empirically, the claim that sensory experiences are “100% an illusion” is nonsensical, seeing as it would require you to have empirical knowledge of the existence of a non-illusionary reality, which would be impossible.

 I've been served. Last part makes alot of sense ngl.

[Sassy Doll]

If you run the big bang cosmology back to Time Zero, then yes, it breaks down.

You end up with an infinitely dense universe that occupies No Space

[n9wiff]

If you run the big bang cosmology back to Time Zero, then yes, it breaks down.

You end up with an infinitely dense universe that occupies No Space

YHWH created everything imo

[Sassy Doll]

YHWH created everything imo

He was later beheaded by Jabhat al-Nusra though

[n9wiff]

He was later beheaded by Jabhat al-Nusra though

No one kills G-d.

[Sassy Doll]

No one kills G-d.

Exactly, which is how scientists know that YHWH was actually a hatter

[n9wiff]

Exactly, which is how scientists know that YHWH was actually a hatter

So you believe Moses was a prophet, and that Allah (S.W.T) did give him the 10 commandments, but you don't follow the commandments? 


Commandments given by Allah (S.W.T) himself?

[Sassy Doll]

So you believe Moses was a prophet, and that Allah (S.W.T) did give him the 10 commandments, but you don't follow the commandments? 


Commandments given by Allah (S.W.T) himself?

The main thing is monotheism

If you affirm the oneness of Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala

Which the cross-worshippers don't

[n9wiff]

Which the cross-worshippers don't

Christians believe in one God too, the whole 1+1+1=3 argument is so dumb. 

Why don't you apply the same logic to the burning bush in the Book of Exodus ( Moses freeing the Chosen People )

[Sassy Doll]

Christians believe in one God too, the whole 1+1+1=3 argument is so dumb. 

Why don't you apply the same logic to the burning bush in the Book of Exodus ( Moses freeing the Chosen People )

They are not the chosen people whatsoever.

Christians mention a Trinity which means they feel Allah is merely 1 of 3

[MVP]

thoughts?

load of bullshit, i dont even know how to respond