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What's the point? You die anyways in the end and might as well stay to see how your life unfolds.
Emil Cioran said it best: "What's your rush? You can kill yourself any time you like. So calm down."
And think about it. What are the chances we're all here? The 1 in 400 trillion probability of being born -- it is far from correct and actually closer to 0. Every fucking thing SINCE the test of time had to go accordingly, exactly the way it did. Including every event that changed the dynamics of the world like slavery. Yes, slavery. Even if it was across the globe. Every event, every shift in the timeline not only affects the actions of individuals in their own time that propagates globally but also cascades down through subsequent generations, completely altering the circumstances that led to the meeting of your great-grandparents, grandparents, parents, and ultimately your very existence. Every decision made, every chance encounter, and every historical event has contributed to the intricate chain of causality that culminates in the moment of your being. The tiniest altercation in the past, no matter how distant or seemingly inconsequential, could have led to an entirely different present, just as the smallest pebble creates ripples in the vast ocean. This doesn't even take into account that your dad had to bust in your mom at that exact time and moment. As well as every single one of your ancestors.
Even in the sperm race. The first to reach the egg is not the winner. The first to reach the egg opens the egg for the next (you) and the 300 million+ cells including the first one dies in the process. Never to be born and never to experience the beauties of life. Perhaps I'm not sending the right message here and you were the slow bastard that let everyone else do the hard work and took all the credit for yourself while the rest died in the process. But, the point is that the others sacrificed so that you can live. Cherish it no matter your circumstances and make the most of it. If not for yourself, for them.
Fruit for thought.
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the probability of you being born is 1 in 1
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(26-04-2024, 07:55 AM)mosa Wrote: What's the point? You die anyways in the end and might as well stay to see how your life unfolds.
Except the reason people commit suicide is because they are experiencing such a high state of stress that death is seen as preferable to living. They don't want to "see how life unfolds", because life is causing them unbearable pain.
The probability mumbo-jumbo only makes sense to you because you've attached a value to life, and so find it easy to believe that life having a small probability (which it doesn't; probability doesn't exist) makes it inherently valuable.
The solution to avoid an untimely suicide is to develop vitality; this is done by engaging in activities that are both challenging and rewarding. This results in an increased resilience to stress, as well as a greater appreciation for life. Another solution is to understand that the stress will likely pass; however, if you had vitality in the first place then this wouldn't be a problem, so this is a last resort.
If you want to be driven to suicide, then spend all your time engaged in efforts that are unrewarding (e.g., wageslaving, or anything else that you hate doing), or activities that provide reward without effort (e.g., browsing social media, drug-taking). You'll eventually grow so weak and hate life so much that any difficulties you face will overwhelm you, and drive you towards suicide.
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Did you know that tarsiers commit suicide in captivity? This is because they are in an environment that causes them overwhelming stress.
Quote:Tarsiers tend to be extremely shy animals and are sensitive to bright lights, loud noises, and physical contact. They have been reported to behave suicidally when stressed or kept in captivity.
Humans are the same way. If you put them in an environment that causes them extreme stress, then they respond by killing themselves. The solution is to avoid extreme stress (stress that overwhelms), and to strengthen yourself through enjoyable stress (an enjoyable activity that is both challenging and rewarding) in order to develop a stress tolerance.
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(26-04-2024, 11:10 AM)Honest Wrote: Except the reason people commit suicide is because they are experiencing such a high state of stress that death is seen as preferable to living. They don't want to "see how life unfolds", because life is causing them unbearable pain.
The probability mumbo-jumbo only makes sense to you because you've attached a value to life, and so find it easy to believe that life having a small probability (which it doesn't; probability doesn't exist) makes it inherently valuable.
The solution to avoid an untimely suicide is to develop vitality; this is done by engaging in activities that are both challenging and rewarding. This results in an increased resilience to stress, as well as a greater appreciation for life. Another solution is to understand that the stress will likely pass; however, if you had vitality in the first place then this wouldn't be a problem, so this is a last resort.
If you want to be driven to suicide, then spend all your time engaged in efforts that are unrewarding (e.g., wageslaving, or anything else that you hate doing), or activities that provide reward without effort (e.g., browsing social media, drug-taking). You'll eventually grow so weak and hate life so much that any difficulties you face will overwhelm you, and drive you towards suicide.
What's the point of this reply? You seem rather inclined to want to correct people, instead of considering the validity of different viewpoints in life.
Just as you want others to hear your "solutions," which are impartial and case-to-case.
And while it's true that assigning value to life is a subjective process, it's not accurate to dismiss the concept of probability entirely. It's a fundamental aspect of various disciples, including mathematics and statistics, and while it may not determine/or place the value of life in itself, entirely dismissing it overlooks its role in providing context and bringing appreciation for the sheer wonder of life itself. And if probability was that insignificant, it wouldn't be used in every fucking area of human endeavor, spanning from science and economics to engineering, gambling, weather forecasting, and artificial intelligence
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(26-04-2024, 11:17 AM)Honest Wrote: Did you know that tarsiers commit suicide in captivity? This is because they are in an environment that causes them overwhelming stress.
Humans are the same way. If you put them in an environment that causes them extreme stress, then they respond by killing themselves. The solution is to avoid extreme stress (stress that overwhelms), and to strengthen yourself through enjoyable stress (an enjoyable activity that is both challenging and rewarding) in order to develop a stress tolerance.
What's that got to do with my thread? Where did I ever talk about stress retard?
Also, just a FYI, virtually all forms of argument and logic can be deconstructed and proven wrong.
Just as 1+1=2 can be refuted, by the logic of one water drop combining with another water drop to create one, larger water drop.
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Welp, looks like no matter what forum you go to, there are always individuals who are determined to challenge your perspectives and prove you wrong when there is virtually nothing to prove wrong. Because I haven't made an argument in the first place, rather, I've simply shared my thoughts.
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Why have a meltdown instead of "considering the validity of different viewpoints in life"?
I'm disagreeing with you, no need to freak out.
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(26-04-2024, 04:23 PM)Honest Wrote: Why have a meltdown instead of "considering the validity of different viewpoints in life"?
I'm disagreeing with you, no need to freak out.
yeah just claim anyone who responds to you is having a "meltdown" jfl -- good way to preserve your ego and maintain authority in the conversation, my friend.
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Lol, just realised that you're a great example of the kind of person that has zero stress tolerance
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(26-04-2024, 04:37 PM)Honest Wrote: Lol, just realised that you're a great example of the kind of person that has zero stress tolerance
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(26-04-2024, 04:11 PM)mosa Wrote: What's that got to do with my thread? Where did I ever talk about stress retard?
Also, just a FYI, virtually all forms of argument and logic can be deconstructed and proven wrong.
Just as 1+1=2 can be refuted, by the logic of one water drop combining with another water drop to create one, larger water drop.
If u fail to see how stress and suicide are related then… I don’t even know what to say…
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(27-04-2024, 01:10 AM)Munificent Wrote: If u fail to see how stress and suicide are related then… I don’t even know what to say…
Obviously I know they're related. And yes, pursuing fulfilling, positive feedback activities can alleviate stress and decrease the probability of suicide. No shit.
But once again, not related to my thread that revolves around the odds of existing and all the factors that go into it, which can bring value in life for many such as myself.
Everyone here is overthinking it. I've posted something similar on other forums, got positive reactions. Only on here are people going full autist, like it's criminal for me to share an outlook on life.
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Don't worry, I'm getting off this shit site anyways. Overrun by mental midgets and 1 alert in a 7-hour-span -- not even worth my time.
kys faggots
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so you signed up a site to post your own cringe chatGPT-assisted unimaginative "quote" - And attached your boneless asian baby photo - to farm positive Reactions and no one liked your 90 iq display of intelligentse so you rage quit
you should have opened with:
Quote:Just to be clear, I'm not a professional "quote maker". I'm just an atheist teenager who greatly values his intelligence and scientific fact over any silly fiction book written 3,500 years ago. That being said, I am open to any and all criticism.
my bad im on molly bruh Im a wee hostile
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