most classical musicians r in the order
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they were all raping or involved in occult shit 

ex tchaikovsky ended up in elite circles then had a relationship with his nephew that was decades younger and still a kid then the nephew suicided

ex chopin worked for the rothschilds, even composed a waltz for one, op 64

erik satie rosicrucian

fuck ton of theosophical society composers 

brootal 

most baroque composers seemed like legit christians idk

maybe its selection bias on my part bc i generally gravitated most to chopin and tchaikovsky but dunno
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#2
mozart was a freemason

beethoven was taught by freemasons
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(19-06-2026, 02:21 AM)slop slinger Wrote: mozart was a freemason

beethoven was taught by freemasons

yeah exactly great examples
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(19-06-2026, 02:21 AM)Winyan Numpa Wrote: yeah exactly great examples

so

why is this the case?
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(19-06-2026, 02:23 AM)slop slinger Wrote: so

why is this the case?

im not quite sure honestly. obv thereis a connection between higher class and secret societies + in europe it was difficult to become a composer if u were born a peasant 

but there is also a great emphasis on musical creation, divine order, etc in the order so 

i think everyone within these systems is either a musician, magician, urban planner, philosopher, artist, etc etc 

all of which create the structures of perception and society, hence masonry
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#6
cool people usually are friends with other cool people
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#7
Most geniuses are childlike eccentrics. Bach was probably too, but he leaned on the lutheran church for order.
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(19-06-2026, 02:23 AM)slop slinger Wrote: so

why is this the case?

classical music is about imposing order on nature, organising sounds based on mathematical principles. classical music is most enjoyed when listeners employ their reasoning faculties to follow the themes as they develop, invert, resolve etc.
and so we find strong parallels to freemasonry in classical music.
also, free masons absolutely love theaters/concert halls.

if there are activities that historically require buildings (museums, classical music, art galleries, libraries, courts etc.), then free masons were probably heavily involved. because theyre sick fuckers who hate natural enlightenment (the sun).
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(19-06-2026, 02:22 PM)Honest Wrote: classical music is about imposing order on nature, organising sounds based on mathematical principles. classical music is most enjoyed when listeners employ their reasoning faculties to follow the themes as they develop, invert, resolve etc.
and so we find strong parallels to freemasonry in classical music.
also, free masons absolutely love theaters/concert halls.

if there are activities that historically require buildings (museums, classical music, art galleries, libraries, courts etc.), then free masons were probably heavily involved. because theyre sick fuckers who hate natural enlightenment (the sun).

ppl think rituals r just a bunch of skitzos chanting but its all highly theatrical in nature (the real stuff like ppl sacrificed etc) 

they know how to target the brain using language to follow themes as they resolve, add tension etc like u said (nlp and hypnosis)

it goes deep into even imposing ordered structures into peoples mind like using the brains ability to dissociate to program alters/parts/places masonry in a person

thats why i call it the order, because they impose the order of everything
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(19-06-2026, 02:25 AM)Winyan Numpa Wrote: im not quite sure honestly. obv thereis a connection between higher class and secret societies + in europe it was difficult to become a composer if u were born a peasant 

but there is also a great emphasis on musical creation, divine order, etc in the order so 

i think everyone within these systems is either a musician, magician, urban planner, philosopher, artist, etc etc 

all of which create the structures of perception and society, hence masonry

yeah, obviously. what/who were those people supposed to be/be connected to - fucking farmers?

Cage

the thing is, op has the general knowledge, intelligence and understanding of history of an average 10 yo/53 yo schizo neet and has been brainwashed into thinking word salads, verbosity, fascination with le transcendental aka immeasurable (guess what fucking group of people shares this one Giggle), eccentricity, deliberate petulence and spiteful decadence = intellectual brilliance, so he thinks whenever he brings up freemasons, jews, elites etc he gets some imaginary sentience points.

ask him about the curriculum he had to learn and knowledge and skills he had to learn to practice to get his "prestigious" phd.
(18-09-2025, 06:49 PM)MVP Wrote: i already said, rӏ is built different

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(19-06-2026, 07:14 PM)Altruist Wrote: yeah, obviously. what/who were those people supposed to be/be connected to - fucking farmers?

Cage

the thing is, op has the general knowledge, intelligence and understanding of history of an average 10 yo/53 yo schizo neet, so he thinks whenever he brings up freemasons, jews, elites etc he gets some imaginary sentience points.

ask him for the curriculum he had to learn to get his "prestigious" phd.

nvm i read the edit
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(19-06-2026, 07:18 PM)Winyan Numpa Wrote: do u mean slop? im op not slop i dont have a phd

im talking about slop, yeah, because i know he got a boner when he posted what you quoted
(18-09-2025, 06:49 PM)MVP Wrote: i already said, rӏ is built different

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