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02-06-2022, 09:54 PM
it´s a pure marketing term and a manipulation tactic
saying you have to experience ego death is like saying you have to experience physical death.
you can´t experience it without dying
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i agree
people thinking they've gotten to that point are just being protected from the horror of their realities by their own brains
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it's when subject ability to distinguish itself from the external is dampened
schizos have it, and that's why those hippies are so weird and cultish, they are archetyping Christ
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(02-06-2022, 10:04 PM)villager Wrote: it's when subject ability to distinguish itself from the external is dampened
schizos have it, and that's why those hippies are so weird and cultish, they are archetyping Christ
no it´s not. what you describe is dissociation. ego death only happens to people who have completely forgotten who they are through an accident. that´s 1 in a million. not even alzheimers patient can say they experience ego death because they still can remember who they were sometimes.
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It’s literally just your awareness disconnecting from your body and reality
You experience it when you drift off to sleep every fucking night
How often do you get high, OP?
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My ego dies everything I try to talk to a girl....
yeah... i just want it to be over already
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i am right, you're wrong
but i won't explain it so someone else will
Quote:Human brains work by template recognition. While growing up you build up a database of templates against which every new bit of information coming into the brain is compared. That database of templates becomes a concept-matrix through which you view your universe. A lens, if you will. The self is very closely tied and integrated into that concept matrix as well.
Psychedelics remove your ability to access this concept matrix, partially and temporarily. New bits of information coming into the brain have nothing against which to be compared, and simply stop making any sense. In desperation the brain seeks to make sense of its own internal feedback noise and will arrange everything into neat little patterns - visual, auditory, and tactile hallucinations, trains of thought and emotion devoid of conceptual content, and so on. Arranging into patterns and making sense out of them is what the processing machinery does, so it simply latches onto different bits of information when existing bits stop becoming available. Then, new thoughts and ideas will appear truly new, revolutionary, and remarkable, because instead of comparing them to existing templates and then filing them away you will instead re-make new templates since you can't access existing ones.
This is why you have the sense of wonder and discovery at new thoughts and ideas. This is why you feel that you've reverted to a childish state - since in effect you're temporarily removed the conceptual effects of growing up and are in fact forcing your mind to re-make its concept matrix all over again, as a child would normally do.
The loss of the self is simply a side-effect. The feelings of unity with the universe arise from not being able to make out the difference between the self and the rest of the universe. Indeed, the concept of self, being a part of the essential concept matrix, is temporarily not accessible. It has to be reassembled again, and is assembled from information that is available at the time - which can sometimes be just the brain's own internal feedback noise and nothing else.
This is why, whenever Sir Tokesalot went so far out as to leave himself behind, he was not only unable to make sense of the self (there really wasn't one to make sense of) but he wasn't able to make sense out of anything, period. Everything was wholly unusual and new. Then, complicated by the fact that the brain's own internal feedback noise was amplified and superimposed over the real world in neat little fractals, it wasn't surprising that he simply couldn't tell the difference between reality and his imagination. From one object or concept to the next. From himself and anything else around him. It was all the same, all new, unusual, wonderful, and terrifying. He was a newborn all over again.
He was the fractals.
This is also why with some entheogens like Salvia it is very common to become objects - the sense of self is first made inaccessible, then is reassembled from existing information, which can be as simple as an object in plain sight, or internal closed-eye-visual hallucinations.
Then, drugs will also induce schitzophrenia, and split the mind into several independently operating parts. The primary part will then perceive these split fragments as independent entities endowed with their own intelligence and sense of self - and you get alien contact, DMT elves, presence of God, and whatever other label you want to put onto the experience.
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it means let others bend you to their will.
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