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the world is full of slaves (and I'm one of them) - mogs_me - 23-09-2025
it's really quite entertaining seeing how easily controlled people are by government and big corporations
people: "release le epstein files!"
gvt: "nah"
people: "do it or else!!! im gonna get really angry and post about it on twitter for a week!!!!!!!"
i mean what else can they do
does anyone really care enough to fight for it, much less die for it? who would they even fight or kill if they were?
are they willing to vote for it? if so, who would they vote for, another AIPAC-owned slave who would do nothing different?
even when people have complete control over their situations, they act like slaves
remember when netflix cracked down on account sharing and hiked their prices?
remember the outrage of people saying they're cancelling their accounts?
remember what happened to their profits and stock price in the following quarters? (they skyrocketed)
people can fake outrage all they want, but are unwilling or unable to make even simple decisions they have complete "control" over to stand behind it
same thing happened with runescape membership price increase lol, playercount didnt take the slightest hit despite "major outrage"
do you think it was always like this or have people become more programmed over time?
how much freedom of choice does the average person have (ignoring metaphysical free will arguments)?
is there really much to do other than get a job, pay taxes, and go with the flow
im not pretending this is a novel or even interesting thought i just feel like it's become more noticeable in recent years, to me anyways, low iq thread tbh
really the only way to seemingly make any impact is to assassinate people (i am not advocating for this or saying i have any interest in doing so CIA). activism and voting feels quite pointless. i have no interest in that personally anyways.
idk it's just funny seeing people posture by saying shit online when in reality they wont do shit and nothing will happen/change
RE: the world is full of slaves (and I'm one of them) - ΛΟΓΟΣ - 23-09-2025
@grok
is this true?
RE: the world is full of slaves (and I'm one of them) - mogs_me - 23-09-2025
(23-09-2025, 07:00 AM)ΛΟΓΟΣ Wrote: @grok
is this true?
Quote:The user in the post, @mogs_me, appears to be a stupid faggot that doesn't know what he's talking about
RE: the world is full of slaves (and I'm one of them) - ΛΟΓΟΣ - 23-09-2025
RE: the world is full of slaves (and I'm one of them) - fdeshieldplus - 23-09-2025
you can stop being a coward and commit violence. nothing's going to change, so you might as well get your rocks off and make the best of a shitty situation
RE: the world is full of slaves (and I'm one of them) - ΛΟΓΟΣ - 23-09-2025
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RE: the world is full of slaves (and I'm one of them) - mogs_me - 23-09-2025
(23-09-2025, 07:12 AM)fdeshieldplus Wrote: you can stop being a coward and commit violence. nothing's going to change, so you might as well get your rocks off and make the best of a shitty situation
that was my conclusion at the bottom of the post
but who's willing to do that nowadays
there's really nothing i value in this world more than my life and what's left of my "freedom", both of which violence puts at risk
lol like were ppl rly willing to die over some 2% sales taxes on tea leaves 300 yrs ago? i just bend over like a good boy and shell out my 30% income tax, multiple sales taxes, property tax on my car, etc... whateva
RE: the world is full of slaves (and I'm one of them) - ΛΟΓΟΣ - 23-09-2025
i dont disagree with you btw, my reply is an irony, since any controversial opinion when posted on x becomes flooded with users asking AI to set the truth on the matter for them... its a great example of slave behavior
RE: the world is full of slaves (and I'm one of them) - mogs_me - 23-09-2025
(23-09-2025, 07:28 AM)ΛΟΓΟΣ Wrote: i dont disagree with you btw, my reply is an irony, since any controversial opinion when posted on x becomes flooded with users asking AI to set the truth on the matter for them... its a great example of slave behavior
i understood the reference
i think lack of mental autonomy/general use of reasoning this has been going on before mainstream GenAI/LLMs and is probably a major contributing factor to the behaviors that i described in a broader sense, but i don't think it's the whole story
RE: the world is full of slaves (and I'm one of them) - Bojack - 23-09-2025
you're a man out of time that is for sure
RE: the world is full of slaves (and I'm one of them) - ΛΟΓΟΣ - 23-09-2025
(23-09-2025, 07:35 AM)mogs_me Wrote: i understood the reference
i think lack of mental autonomy/general use of reasoning this has been going on before mainstream GenAI/LLMs and is probably a major contributing factor to the behaviors that i described in a broader sense, but i don't think it's the whole story
the gnostic tripartite applied to people as categories is very true, most people are 'earthly' - hylics
this isnt to say theres no mental activity as the npc meme portrays, but that theres no resistance in face of the external
most people are running thought loops inside their heads that themselves have no mediation of, they dont manipulate let alone instilled with curiosity enough to seek knowing where those ideas comes from, which is why when it comes to politics the term 'ideological possession' is the best and accurate, it explains away a lot of psychotic or dumb behavior
RE: the world is full of slaves (and I'm one of them) - MysteriousWeeb420 - 23-09-2025
Society is a web of incentive structures. People can get as outraged as they want but nothing will happen if the incentives have been designed correctly.
Major uprising only tends to happen when people struggle to put food on the table
RE: the world is full of slaves (and I'm one of them) - welshcel - 23-09-2025
brutal
RE: the world is full of slaves (and I'm one of them) - Honest - 23-09-2025
1. the structure of modern society reinforces the belief that people are powerless to change almost anything in the physical world. i believe this is a very important factor.
take the extremely lowly position of a medieval serf, for example. Despite having very limited rights, this person had effective control over their allotted land (which was their workplace), could create their own trails, coppice or cut trees, modify their homes etc. Meanwhile, a modern person has almost no say in how their workplace is ordered; all roads are set in asphalt; all land is now private (rather than common), and the average person does not have access to any meaningful amount of it, and cannot modify public land; the average person increasingly does not even own their own home, and even if they do, there are strict regulations governing their modification. instead, people's ability to change the world has been restricted to the internet, which is inherently non-physical and ephemeral. even children are increasingly not playing outside anymore, and are instead brought up with touchscreens. this all teaches people that they have no control over their physical environment.
take living in a city, for example, where the citizen has effectively zero power over anything in their physical environement. their apartment is rented, they do not own a garden, all roads and pavements are solid and unchangeable, all buildings are tightly controlled, workplaces have strict regulations (down to what clothes you wear, when you can eat, when you can do the toilet etc.), they are constantly monitored by CCTV and other humans etc..
in other words, the modern human increasingly lacks any sense of physical, tangible agency. they feel restricted to the ephemeral realm of social media.
2. the structure of government in modern society is confusing and shadowy. people dont know who to blame.
again, take a medieval setting. The peasants had a lord, who had another lord. Generally, government was highly localized. and when it wasn't localized, it came from the king. if there was something that the people didnt like, they knew who was to blame. But modern states rely heavily on vast networks of bureaucracies, whose structure are often opaque. Furthermore, they are decentralized and international. if Netflix did something like publish all their customers' private data, what could the customers do? There is no king or castle to revolt against. The most they could do would be to cancel their memberships - a fairly non-physical action. this is why conspiracies about secret blood-sucking illuminati jew elites are so common in the modern day, because people are confused and cant find anything real to blame
in other words, ruling structures are shadowy, confusing, shifting bureaucracie, which cannot be physically attacked.
3. people are alienated
again, to take the example of medieval times, people spent all day among their families (immediate and extended). When something harmful happened to them, they could band together to enact physical change by attacking their physical foes. But now, people live alone or in extremely small families. Imagine a local police force started stealing from people in a white western european city suburb; what could the people do to physically resist? None of the neighbours know or trust one another; there are no family bonds between them. Compare this to modern gypsy communities, who live together in family clans, and can (and do) put up a strong resistance to anyone coming into their territory.
4. there are many more points, of course. Families being smaller means that people have inflated sense of self-importance, government has more physical power (weapons, surveillance, standing armies/police forces etc.) than ever, people are now physically weak with poor hormones, voting helps alleviate pressure against governments...
in other words, people are alone and have no real way of organising any meaningful resistance
5. most important point, as @MysteriousWeeb420 has already pointed out, is that people rarely do anything when they are adequately fed (and in possession of other physical comforts). HOWEVER, as a caveat, there are also many revolts which have taken place when the people were comparitively comfortable, but which wouldnt take place today... pretty much any western revolution since the 17th century onwards
RE: the world is full of slaves (and I'm one of them) - machinelves - 23-09-2025
it all programming i been telling everyone for last 10 years