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i want to understand chaos - machinelves - 09-09-2025

i dont really understand how everyone combines into the bigger picture because one stray person can change everything

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RE: i want to understand chaos - Sexual chocolate - 09-09-2025

(09-09-2025, 08:37 PM)machinelves Wrote: i dont really understand how everyone combines into the bigger picture because one stray person can change everything

interesting thing is chaos theory very rarely applies to History, WW1 was gonna happen anyway, the Archeduke getting shot simply sped up the process. I believe chaos theory applies mostly to physical systems since the order is already a mirage, same reason why I think the whole one mutant cell causing cancer is rubbish (maybe applies to infant mortality but I dont think its a coincidence that cancer rates are higher when older)

RE: i want to understand chaos - machinelves - 09-09-2025

(09-09-2025, 08:49 PM)Sexual chocolate Wrote: interesting thing is chaos theory very rarely applies to History, WW1 was gonna happen anyway, the Archeduke getting shot simply sped up the process. I believe chaos theory applies mostly to physical systems since the order is already a mirage, same reason why I think the whole one mutant cell causing cancer is rubbish (maybe applies to infant mortality but I dont think its a coincidence that cancer rates are higher when older)

yeah i guess so

i just want to understand everything at once rather than in pieces

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RE: i want to understand chaos - Sexual chocolate - 09-09-2025

(09-09-2025, 08:50 PM)machinelves Wrote: yeah i guess so

i just want to understand everything at once rather than in pieces

I keep getting scammed I kinda want to just die tbh, I have lost faith in humanity maybe crime is the only option

RE: i want to understand chaos - machinelves - 09-09-2025

(09-09-2025, 08:50 PM)Sexual chocolate Wrote: I keep getting scammed I kinda want to just die tbh, I have lost faith in humanity maybe crime is the only option

brutal

but in all fairness how much integrity will whatsapp dealers have

RE: i want to understand chaos - Sexual chocolate - 09-09-2025

(09-09-2025, 08:51 PM)machinelves Wrote: brutal

but in all fairness how much integrity will whatsapp dealers have

They aren't whatsapp dealers, they operate on session. Talk lowkey , don't hurry the deal etc nothing like scammers you see memes on the internet. They're just ingenuous. cunts. Should have gone with tor from the start , I thought I'd take the chance but nah people in this country have no problem lying through their teeth. But it's on me as well

RE: i want to understand chaos - ΛΟΓΟΣ - 10-09-2025

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RE: i want to understand chaos - ΛΟΓΟΣ - 10-09-2025

tbh the book is larp but i liked the visual elements

RE: i want to understand chaos - ΛΟΓΟΣ - 10-09-2025

Methodologically, Brentano, Husserl, Scheler, Heidegger, Dietrich von Hildebrand, as well as Jean-Paul Sartre, Maurice Merleau-Ponty, Emmanuel Lévinas, Michel Henry, and Jean-Luc Marion understood their phenomenological procedures along the lines of the above summary–with characteristic differences, though, which will be described in more detail below (cf. Zahavi 2018). The central understanding of the methodologically most reflective authors is that the method is not produced on the basis of a subjective decision or a certain tradition, but determined by the object of the phenomenological study, i.e., the essence itself. It may seem that the method and the content of the act of knowledge, i.e., intuition, form a circle: methodically, one reaches the object that determines the method of its own perception. This circle, nevertheless, is not logically circular; in reality, knowledge is such that it is always determined by the object of knowledge so that knowledge is teleological, i.e., it strives for its fulfillment in understanding, which is by definition an understanding of meaning (cf. Cassedy 2022, pp. 183–85).

RE: i want to understand chaos - ΛΟΓΟΣ - 10-09-2025

The teleological nature of knowledge determines the processes of knowledge at various levels beginning with external perceptions through forms of inner discernment to the understanding of the meaning and to various corollaries that refer to the whole of meaning given in the original insight. Knowledge is defined by its ultimate object, and the object–in various forms corresponding to the level of knowledge–forms the particular epistemic way in the process. In other words, in the phenomenological dynamism of knowledge, method and content, procedure and object are interrelated precisely in accordance with Husserl’s well-known principle of “the universal a priori of correlation” (Husserl 1970, pp. 159–61). While this expression refers prima facie to the correlation between intention and object, its validity is obvious in other respects as well, such as the correlation between method and object, form and content, or reference and meaning.

RE: i want to understand chaos - ΛΟΓΟΣ - 10-09-2025

tbh i wont address 'chaos' as a thing itself because its bunk. but in the sense of 'emergence' which might appear, from simple to complex systems as within a spectrum of 'randomness' we have to look at bees and their beehives or ant colonies. when there are a lot of ants crawling a sandy place, they might appear as 'single' agents and acting randomly, but when we see the gradual process of how they self-assembly and act in coherence towards the construction of geometric and considerably sized colonies, we might think of it as creative 'emergence' where from something simple and 'stupid' something that is 'superior' to its parts as a sum has emerged. this is interpreted usually as spontaneous, random, or utterly dead and reliant on the materia that is present.

however, ants are coded. there is information transcribed that each ant inherently possess, which not only is responsive, but acts as stimulus that each ant produces and reacts to one another. in a sense, the same can be said that we do react and adjust to each other, or to various others, in a sort of chain reaction, and this is coded by information within, and not merely a mess of a cluster that by endless interactions form something greater as a system. that is to say theres intelligibility in things and intelligence in beings, regardless of how small or big.

things should be seen as from microcosm and macrocosm, simplicity and complexity, but not from chaos to order or vice-versa, and equally to what is similar in concept, i guess. used to think a lot about this when first read about heraclitus and parmenides. theres a duality between their philosophy, but its not antagonistic, and i think it can be considered as something that is to melt together and for that to make sense, we have to think of simplicity within complexity, or the microcosm within the macrocosm, for the microcosm changes, but the macrocosm does not, for one is incomplete, the other is complete. the self as it is clearly not borderless either, we are limited in a sense, and so is our experience, that of change, the changes of things that we measure and call time, is eternal or stationary for God.

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