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What benefit does eating plants have (not including fruit) - Munificent - 06-09-2024
Just curious, seeing as meat has every nutrient you need and all plant versions of vitamins etc are vastly inferior - poorly absorbed by the body, if at all and poorly converted to the animal versions we actually need, if at all.
RE: What benefit does eating plants have (not including fruit) - Sexual chocolate - 06-09-2024
you dont inflict torture on beings of higher sentience
RE: What benefit does eating plants have (not including fruit) - Munificent - 06-09-2024
(06-09-2024, 07:27 PM)Sexual chocolate Wrote: you dont inflict torture on beings of higher sentience
If killing for food is torture then all predators are torturers
RE: What benefit does eating plants have (not including fruit) - Daily Flosser - 06-09-2024
(06-09-2024, 07:27 PM)Sexual chocolate Wrote: you dont inflict torture on beings of higher sentience
a feline wouldn't think twice about killing you
RE: What benefit does eating plants have (not including fruit) - Sexual chocolate - 06-09-2024
(06-09-2024, 07:30 PM)Munificent Wrote: If killing for food is torture then all predators are torturers
u asked me benefit and i listed one
if net sum of pain goes down in world its still a benefit, just not for u
diet wise theres nothing special about meat except carnosine, creatine and b12 all of which can be supplemented easily
RE: What benefit does eating plants have (not including fruit) - Munificent - 06-09-2024
(06-09-2024, 07:33 PM)Sexual chocolate Wrote: u asked me benefit and i listed one
if net sum of pain goes down in world its still a benefit, just not for u
diet wise theres nothing special about meat except carnosine, creatine and b12 all of which can be supplemented easily
You didn’t explain how killing for food is torture. And even if it was, why is that bad?
Why is net sum of pain going down a benefit? So if we nuked the planet and there was zero pain left that would be a win? Predators exist therefore life requires death.
If by torture you mean keeping animals locked up, wouldn’t dairy also cause ‘torture’?
RE: What benefit does eating plants have (not including fruit) - kathisterima - 06-09-2024
do you actually know this or just talking nonsense you read on the internet
I can say with certainty (for me) that diets are scam, since I've tried most if not all of them
RE: What benefit does eating plants have (not including fruit) - Munificent - 06-09-2024
(06-09-2024, 07:54 PM)kathisterima Wrote: do you actually know this or just talking nonsense you read on the internet
I can say with certainty (for me) that diets are scam, since I've tried most if not all of them
Define know.
‘Diets are a scam’ - what about the diet you’re currently eating?
RE: What benefit does eating plants have (not including fruit) - kathisterima - 06-09-2024
(06-09-2024, 08:01 PM)Munificent Wrote: Define know.
‘Diets are a scam’ - what about the diet you’re currently eating?
My diet doesnt promise anything
RE: What benefit does eating plants have (not including fruit) - Mr Looks - 06-09-2024
I can't think of anything
RE: What benefit does eating plants have (not including fruit) - Sexual chocolate - 06-09-2024
(06-09-2024, 07:42 PM)Munificent Wrote: You didn’t explain how killing for food is torture. And even if it was, why is that bad?
Why is net sum of pain going down a benefit? So if we nuked the planet and there was zero pain left that would be a win?
Under utilitarian calculus, its a net positive. I dont care about ur moral valuations,im simply describing how under a certain paradigm it can be construed to be a negative. If you dont subscribe to that valuation then gfy.
RE: What benefit does eating plants have (not including fruit) - Sexual chocolate - 06-09-2024
(06-09-2024, 07:54 PM)kathisterima Wrote: do you actually know this or just talking nonsense you read on the internet
I can say with certainty (for me) that diets are scam, since I've tried most if not all of them
carnivore is a scam, but u can certainly get a pretty decent understanding of human physiology to construct a diet that is more on the optimal side. Start with questioning the belief that sugar is poison.
RE: What benefit does eating plants have (not including fruit) - Munificent - 06-09-2024
(06-09-2024, 08:45 PM)Sexual chocolate Wrote: carnivore is a scam, but u can certainly get a pretty decent understanding of human physiology to construct a diet that is more on the optimal side. Start with questioning the belief that sugar is poison.
We get it u know Ray peat
RE: What benefit does eating plants have (not including fruit) - Altruist - 06-09-2024
(06-09-2024, 07:27 PM)Sexual chocolate Wrote: you dont inflict torture on beings of higher sentience
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/stressed-plants-cry-and-some-animals-can-probably-hear-them/
RE: What benefit does eating plants have (not including fruit) - Sexual chocolate - 06-09-2024
(06-09-2024, 09:50 PM)Altruist Wrote: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/stressed-plants-cry-and-some-animals-can-probably-hear-them/
which is why i used a relative term