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An article regarding how manly and patriarchal tended to be meat-eating folk. - noi_avorrit - 13-05-2022 Well, so this is mostly a continuation of my other thread called "The Neolithic revolution was mankind's biggest mistake". I've noticed that historical peoples that ate a high fat meat-rich (specially red-meat rich) diet were more successful in military terms and even in "moral terms" than grain-rich eating peoples. Meat eaters such as the indo europeans prayed to a masculine sky God deity, while the pre indo europeans seemed to be more matriarchal and made those typical fat woman venuses. Here I list some peoples who are known to have eaten a mostly meat-rich pastoralist diet and some of their details. The Indo Europeans or Yamnaya They're very famous, given how they conquered the whole Early European Farmer folk and replaced their male lines with theirs. They began in what is modern day Ukraine eating mostly fish and then switched to meat and dairy, although both ways are animal based food. I've written Indo Europeans or Yamnaya given that some folk consider the Yamnaya just a sub tribe of Indo Europeans rather than strictly so. Anyway, as I said before they conquerered completely the Early European farmers and replaced their likely matriarchal culture with their patriarchal one, apart from wholly replacing their Y-DNA with theirs. The Corded Ware culture and later on the Sintashta/Andronovo culture folk ![]() ![]() The Corded Ware culture was the result of Indo European folk, specially males colonizing most of Europe and assimilating EEF (Early European Farmer) women. However, even then they were still like 70% descended from the Indo Europeans. They developed a high number of blonde hair and blue eyes (which is not known if it comes from Indo Europeans or EEF) and continued the way of eating of their paternal ancestors. Later on they moved to what is now eastern Ukraine and Kazakhstan. When they arrived there they developed into the Sintashta culture and later on into the Andronovo culture. The meat-eating Andronovo culture then conquered the whole of the Elamite civilization which is now Iran and the north of India, where the Indus Valley Civilization was located (Although if some folk don't agree with the Andronovo invasion of the north of India just ignore this statement). Both of those cultures were grain eaters. The Andronovo then mixed with the folk they conquered and imposed their language, giving birth to modern countries like Iran where folk are descended from Iranian Neolithic folk but speak an Andronovo-descended language. The Scythians ![]() ![]() In short terms, the Scythians were "the pure descendants" of the Andronovo, keeping their way of eating and nomadic pastoralist lifestyle, in contrast to the Andronovers that conquered the elamites and others and got mixed. The Scythians were divided into various tribes and sub-tribes like the Germanic and Celtic folk. They raided various agricultural empires throughout history, like the various Persian empires and the Roman Empire very successfully. They mixed a little bit with east asians in their easternmost territories, although still keeping themselves mostly "pure" outside of those places. Later on they were conquered by other meat-eating folk such as Huns, Mongols and Turks, and their genetics mostly disappeared. The last "racially pure" tribe were the Alans, which as a name is a dialectal term meaning "Aryan". They raided Rome during its collapse in the 5th century, and later on established themselves in what is now Ossetia, where they also lost their genetics thus ending a long history of Scythian genetics. The Huns ![]() The Huns were extremely aggressive and constantly raided Rome and other "rich" places. They were an East Asian folk that are though to have spoken either a Turkic or Mongol language. They also ate a mostly animal-based diet and dominated a big part of Europe being almost wholly undefeated for a long time. They learnt horse riding and horse archery from the Scythians. Turks and Mongols ![]() ![]() The Old Turks and Mongols have a very similar history, owing to their near urheimats. They also ate a meat-rich diet. The original Turks were East Asian meat eaters, that lived in or near modern-day Mongolia. With various empires such as the Göktürk empire and various Khaganates they greatly extended their territory, expelling the white Scythians from their homeland and conquering other native folk of the places they conquered. A big extension of Central Asia today is Turkic speaking and half East Asian half Brown owing to their extension. Turkey is also turkic-speaking although not as mongoloid as central asia. The Old Turks seem to have loved the conquered Brown Women, which is showed by how in Turkic-speaking central asian countries the Y DNA is mostly of east asian turkic origin, while the female line is native. They also have some Y DNA R1a though, which some folk hypothetise that it is due to an early indo european influence on the Old Turks, which may coincide with how their old deity, Tengri, was similar to the Indo European sky God deity, although this is another matter. The Mongols also emerged in what is now Mongolia or at least near it, and followed the Old Turk's path. They also conquered a lot and stole women, specially Genghis Khan. Genghis Khan created one of the biggest empires of history. Timur later on created a combined Turco-Mongol empire, trying to follow the deeds of Genghis Khan. The Catalan almogàvers ![]() ![]() The Catalan almogàvers began as mercenaries for the Eastern Roman empire against the Turks (although I don't know if these ones were mostly mongoloid or anatolian). They originated in the Principality of Catalonia, which was the dominant part of the Crown of Aragon at the time. The Turks seem to have switched from a mostly meat-based diet to a grain based diet when they reached Anatolia. According to the Greeks, who lived under Eastern Rome at the time, the Catalan almogàvers ate mostly meat and dairy, and would even eat so on Holy Fridays. They would also carry cattle on their ships. They defeated, even utterly outnumbered the grain-eating Sultanate of Rum Turks, who were pushed west and Anatolia was temporarily occupied by them. After defeating the Sultanate of Rum and early Ottoman turks, the Eastern Romans betrayed the catalans, which sparked a fight between them. The catalans again defeated even being outnumbered the Eastern Romans and French Mercenaries and occupied for a long time some of their territories, namely the Duchy of Athens and the Duchy of Neopàtria, among other territories. Now in comparison I list here some peoples that were grain-eaters, although not as much given that I don't have much info on grain-eating tribes, although they have a tendency as I said before to be more "matriarchal" and more "lax". The Early European Farmers As I've said many times, these folk were rather a genetic component that lived in Europe before the Indo European conquest, and could have been divided into a big number of tribes. They made venuses emphatizing the bellies and breasts of women. It is a coincidence that nowadays most men don't like big bellies, while at the same time leftists promote the "curvy woman" figure. Given that they didn't leave any attested language it is difficult to figure out their details apart from their grain-rich diet. It is known, though, that these folk often show deformed jaws and tooth decay unlike other tribes of their era. The late Romans The Romans originated as the tribe of the Latins near Rome, and seemed to have combined Indo European and native diet practices. In the late republican period they seemed to have combined lentils, wheat and meat, without forsaking meat.During the principate,imperial and late period this trait seemed to become different, becoming mostly wheat eaters, combined with an early "diversity" that brought big numbers of North Africans and West Asians to various Roman cities. Race mixing could have been very common too, although I'm not wholly sure. Early Rome was mostly genetically similar to the North of Italy, while in the later period it became West Asian, not very unalike from what is happening in the modern west, which is becoming "non white" genetically. For some reason, after the barbarian invasions Italy became genetically italian again, although I can't explain how. The modern West As it is already known, the modern West is mostly a matriarchy or if not almost completing the transition from being a former patriarchy to a matriarchy. Male behaviour is punished and only feminine one is encouraged: folk just have to fuck themselves and memorize and memorize without understanding much just like women like to do throughout their 20's, thus decreasing the white fertility rate and increasing the non white one, which is in fact encouraged. It's also encouraged for women to not only be stuck up college educated women that are hypergamous not forming a family until their 40's and sometimes just buying cats to replace children. Just like late Rome, a genetic replacement is taking place in the west.In the modern west, vegan and grain based diets are constantly promoted against meat-based ones based on low fat pseudoscience. I'm sorry if what I wrote is too long, or if I forgot to state important folk such as the Germanic and Celtic tribes (which are included in the Corded Ware), the Maasai, Inuit or important leaders such as Attila and others.However, my main points are that mostly meat eating tribes have a tendency to be manly, conservative and patriarchal (putting women in their place), as well as warlike. On the other hand, grain-eating folk are often more lax, more open to matriarchy and in the case of the modern west utterly anti-male. Sorry for tagging you guys, but could I ask you @Blau , @Bookist , @RuudVanNistelrooy @Torbik , @An Infinity Of Little Hours , among others what is your take on this article that I wrote? Do you agree guys? RE: An article regarding how manly and patriarchal tended to be meat-eating folk. - noi_avorrit - 13-05-2022 Up, can't believe the article is going down the list RE: An article regarding how manly and patriarchal tended to be meat-eating folk. - An Infinity Of Little Hours - 13-05-2022 You could be on to something but read the China study All places that eat the most meat got cancer Once you look into what a hot dog or burger is... it’s disgusting That isn’t just one cow in a burger it’s like 40,000 different cows who were brutally slaughtered... i’d rather eat a banana and kale and shit Our bodies weren’t meant to eat that much “fear” - the fear and hormone pumping of a thousand fat pigs to make one hot dog It’s just nasty Vegans always have way better skin too but meat eaters are always in better shape - that protein helps your body grow strong RE: An article regarding how manly and patriarchal tended to be meat-eating folk. - An Infinity Of Little Hours - 13-05-2022 Like look into Jordan Peterson That unhealthy looking nigga eats only meat.... and then Sverige is like the other hero of this movement? He looks disgusting too RE: An article regarding how manly and patriarchal tended to be meat-eating folk. - noi_avorrit - 13-05-2022 (13-05-2022, 08:57 PM)An Infinity Of Little Hours Wrote: You could be on to something but read the China study Yeah, you could be right regarding burgers and some kind of processed meats. They're likely a combination of many slaughtered animals. The positive side of those folk I mentioned is that they ate natural meat so they didn't have to worry much about the composition. I don't know if fully trust the meat cancer thing, since they often test people eating both meat and carbs which may influence the results. Meat also gives choresterol-related problems, but once you remove the carbs they suddenly stop. RE: An article regarding how manly and patriarchal tended to be meat-eating folk. - noi_avorrit - 13-05-2022 (13-05-2022, 08:59 PM)An Infinity Of Little Hours Wrote: Like look into Jordan Peterson I think Sverige eats only raw meat and doesn't agree with cooking it, although I'm not sure brah. I tend to imitate what Scythians or Corded Ware folk ate rather than watching videos of these people. I think the "leader" of the carnivore diet is Shawn Baker. RE: An article regarding how manly and patriarchal tended to be meat-eating folk. - Honest - 13-05-2022 (13-05-2022, 08:57 PM)An Infinity Of Little Hours Wrote: You could be on to something but read the China study Obviously processed meats are carcinogenic. No one is saying that they are good for you. The fact of the matter is that if you want to be the best version of yourself, you need to eat high quality meats and fruits. Not eating processed garbage or being vegan. RE: An article regarding how manly and patriarchal tended to be meat-eating folk. - noi_avorrit - 13-05-2022 (13-05-2022, 09:08 PM)Honest Wrote: Obviously processed meats are carcinogenic. No one is saying that they are good for you. Don't you think that most problems associated with meat are influenced by carbs, though? There are zero carbers that have been on this diet for like more than 10 years and have not had any problem for now. Meat combined with carbs gives choresterol-related problems, and maybe cancers could be a result of combining meat with carbs. Although indeed it's true that processed garbage will always give cancer or other such problems though. RE: An article regarding how manly and patriarchal tended to be meat-eating folk. - Honest - 13-05-2022 (13-05-2022, 09:12 PM)noi_avorrit Wrote:(13-05-2022, 09:08 PM)Honest Wrote: Obviously processed meats are carcinogenic. No one is saying that they are good for you. I don't think keto is ideal for long-term. From what I am aware of, I would think that highly processed foods, vegetable oils, and overcooked/burnt food (including meat) are main causes of cancer. Maybe @Munificent can give useful inputs here RE: An article regarding how manly and patriarchal tended to be meat-eating folk. - noi_avorrit - 13-05-2022 (13-05-2022, 09:21 PM)Honest Wrote: I don't think keto is ideal for long-term. Interesting input of yours, @Honest . May I ask you why don't you think keto is ideal for long-term? I think you could be fine as long as you eat healthy foods. I also read somewhere that vegetable oils can give cancer though. RE: An article regarding how manly and patriarchal tended to be meat-eating folk. - Honest - 13-05-2022 (13-05-2022, 09:29 PM)noi_avorrit Wrote:(13-05-2022, 09:21 PM)Honest Wrote: I don't think keto is ideal for long-term. I think keto can be stressful for the body over long periods. PUFAs in general are no good. You might find Ray Peat's writings interesting http://raypeat.com/articles/ RE: An article regarding how manly and patriarchal tended to be meat-eating folk. - noi_avorrit - 13-05-2022 (13-05-2022, 09:36 PM)Honest Wrote: I think keto can be stressful for the body over long periods. Okay, cool, thank you for your information. They seem to be interesting articles. One of the problems with information regarding nutrition is that it's filled with different points of view so it can make making a conclusion hard. RE: An article regarding how manly and patriarchal tended to be meat-eating folk. - Munificent - 13-05-2022 (13-05-2022, 09:29 PM)noi_avorrit Wrote:(13-05-2022, 09:21 PM)Honest Wrote: I don't think keto is ideal for long-term. it significantly increases cortisol and adrenaline RE: An article regarding how manly and patriarchal tended to be meat-eating folk. - noi_avorrit - 13-05-2022 (13-05-2022, 09:45 PM)Munificent Wrote: it significantly increases cortisol and adrenaline Interesting, @Munificent . However, I think there are lots of opinions regarding this topic. I even read an article once that said that vegan men had more T while other stated it's a high fat diet that increased T and perhaps lowered cortisol. This article https://www.carnivorerx.com/does-a-carnivore-diet-increase-testosterone/ for example argues that this diet increases T (although doesn't say anything about cortisol). Could I ask you what do you think about it? RE: An article regarding how manly and patriarchal tended to be meat-eating folk. - RuudVanNistelrooy - 13-05-2022 I say that 50-50 meat/plant diet is the best now.We are no longer conquerors who have to ride horses and fight.Cholesterol is good for you,it's being used up by the brain and cells. |