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Detailed DECONSTRUCTION of ORTHO-HYGIENICS - 10khitman - 11-03-2023

CALLING ALL HIGH IQ INDIVIDUALS @brocode @søren @vicious cycle @Mustang @Repsel1001

If I @'d you in this thread PLEASE AT LEAST SKIM IT. I NEED input on this theory and further experimentation which I will be running soon. You are all highly intelligent individuals who have demonstrated either an impressive degree of knowledge or natural deductive reasoning. 

We are all deeply familiar with Mew's exposition on physical orthodontic treatment and proper bone growth. But I am going to offer a theory which deconstructs the hygienic aspect of orthodontics in a complete and logical way which I have never seen before.

As we know, human skull fossils show that a surprising majority of ancient peoples had impressive and unexpectedly healthy teeth. This information poses a consequential problem: why is ortho-hygienics necessary to our oral health today? We will discuss exactly that. 

Recently I have began experimentation on the necessity of regular tooth brushing by limiting how often I brush my teeth while testing multiple different diets. This experiment originated from an intuitive hunch about the validity of ortho-hygienic practices pushed by (((modern science))).

My current theory which I will discuss here originated as I made a very interesting observation today after just a few days of not brushing my teeth: intrinsic aspects of my appetite had begun changing in a unique way I had never experienced before. First of all, it became scarcer; I was hungry rarely throughout the day (something highly uncharacteristic), and had no cravings (this was unaffected by weight loss, fasting, or anything else of the sort). This is sympathetic also to the observation that mentally ill depressed people who lack the motivation to brush end up very skinny and lacking appetite. Secondly, the quality of my hunger felt different; I felt like there was something unfamiliar in my mouth resulting in a unique physical urge to eat food and specifically the idea of allowing it to be processed by oral enzymes and bacteria. (Spoiler alert, this process of bacteria-enzyme processing is exactly what is supposed to happen, and doesn't for most people thanks to modern ortho-hygienics).

I also remember how back when I was young, I very very rarely brushed my teeth for about 2 years, and yet my oral hygiene was almost perfect. I had minimal dental erosion, white teeth, unscented breath, never needed any extractions and I still have my wisdom teeth. In fact, my oral development was ultimately almost perfect: good palatal width, dental spacing, colouring, protrusion and hygiene. Interesting, right? I will answer how this was possible later alongside the explanation of my theories. 

As a quick preface: we know that fluoride has serious negative consequences on our biological health, and about this topic most people will immediately think of the hormonal damages cased by fluoridation. But, how does this relate to oral hygiene?

We will get to the effects of toothpaste in a second, but first I will give you some information which you must keep in mind: not only does fluoride affect hormones, it also greatly reduces digestive enzymes throughout the body, and moreover being a toxic chemical it is responsible for killing bacteria. This is all conventional scientific knowledge, nothing crazy, but prudent to our theory.

Typically, one would attribute these effects to water-based fluoridation, but then, what is the point of (((them))) putting fluoride in toothpaste? The amount of fluoride which travels into your body from tooth paste as compared to that from water transmission is negligible. So, there must be another reason... And that is the focus of this current theory.

My Theory:

Fluoride content (alongside other chemicals) in toothpaste (and other oral health products) destroys enzymes and bacteria in the mouth which are responsible for: appetite control, proper digestion/processing of nutrients, and oral hygiene. This causes: dental erosion, oral disease, cravings, obesity, and a lot of money circulating through the orthodontic system. 

Firstly, what causes cavities? Well, it's a result of too much bacteria in the mouth breaking down food which wasn't cleaned out by proper brushing, right? WRONG (at least by my theory). Here's my explanation: it's actually a result of two things; firstly, it's a result of NOT ENOUGH natural bacteria being present in the mouth due to toothpaste fluoridation (often falsely marketed as a POSITIVE effect (how in the world would your body have "too much" natural bacteria? JFL)). It is also a result of "synthetic nutrients", essentially processed chemicals in modern food and most infamously processed sugar. The natural bacteria in our mouths aren't equipped to break down these kinds of unnatural substances, forcing us to clean with powerful chemicals such as fluoride, hence keeping the natural bacteria count of our mouth low and continuing the cycle of oral disease, and consequently regular ortho-hygienic check ups and purchasing of "oral health products". AKA making (((them))) a lot of money

This is how my aforementioned perfect oral health was possible in spite of my rebellion against modern oral hygienic tactics: My mother disallowed me to eat ANY processed sugar, unnatural foods and drinks, etc... she had me on an extremely strict, no-sugar, organic diet and that's why my oral hygiene maintained itself: without the synthetic (((chemicals))) in my food, I didn't need the other synthetic (((chemicals))) to clean my mouth. Natural diet means the natural bacteria and enzymes in my mouth were enough to maintain my oral health! 

Secondly, I want to talk about the role this plays in obesity (one of the biggest health pandemics of our era). Most people would attribute obesity to two things: firstly technological advancement and secondly improper diet. The latter disposition is somewhat valid, however, let me pose the following rebuttal to the former: if the natural purpose of eating is to gather sufficient functioning energy, and technological advancement lowered our energy expenditure greatly, why wouldn't the human body be able to recognize the energy expenditure disparity and therefore require us to eat less food? Well it would; digestive enzymes and oral bacteria would signal to the body that enough calories (energy) have been gathered and the functional requirement had been satisfied given our low modern energy expenditure, resulting in smaller, health appropriate diets.

This would mean what? Significantly less money for the biggest industry in the worldthe food industry.

Now, the latter conventional reasoning for obesity (improper diet) may have validity, but on its own it doesn't give the full story. You can't just force feed the unnatural to a natural system and expect things to "simply work". Something else has to happen, and here's my complete explanation:

I hypothesize that the main cause for obesity is actually the destruction of the oral bacteria-enzyme ecosystem as a consequence of constant tooth brushing and oral fluoridation. The water transmitted fluoridation destroys the gut's nutritional instinct, while toothpaste destroys the mouth's nutritional instinct. As a result, the body's nutritional intuition is primed not only to be bastardized but reprogrammed by processed sugar and other chemicals/foreign bacteria present in our food. 

Our body's natural system for digestion and appetite is killed, and then replaced by (((their))) collection of foreign chemicals and bacteria, therefore getting us trapped in a new and corrupt system of nutrition. Think of a bone marrow transplant: firstly your original defective bone marrow is killed by radiation, then replaced by new working bone marrow from the donor, and hence your body is able to produce working antibodies. Just, in this case, the body's working system is killed and replaced by an inferior and unhealthy system. 

In conclusion, we now have a theory which tells us that fluoridation and tooth brushing with bacteria-enzyme destroying chemicals results in our poor oral hygiene, meaning the processed chemicals in food can bring chaos upon our oral ecosystem which necessitates the use of the aforementioned chemical tooth paste and therefore creating a self-sustaining highly profitable industry AKA ortho-hygienics. 

We have also theorized that the oral bacteria-enzyme destruction in conjunction with the bodily bacteria-enzyme destruction bastardizes the natural negative feedback system of appetite therefore resulting in cravings and consequently obesity which are almost single-handedly responsible for the largest industry in the world: the food industry.

Now that I realize the extent of this conspiracy, I will continue with the following experiment:

I will firstly brush my teeth very thoroughly and rid my mouth of any processed sugar or other chemicals.

After this, I will continue to eat an extremely strict, locally sourced, farmer's diet of fresh cut meat and nothing else. Throughout this time, I will not brush my teeth.

I will report my findings after a week, then consider how to proceed further.


RE: Detailed DECONSTRUCTION of ORTHO-HYGIENICS - brocode - 11-03-2023

Good post man.

Indeed toothpastes are Fucked. And along with it is indeed the massive scam industry known as orthodontics.

Orthodontists basically give out braces to every little kid and curl their gonions and fuck their teeth alignment instead of assisting in opening up gaps for new teeth to grow out.

And indeed the main causes of cavities is undoubtedly processed crap, that shit fucks ur teeth up so bad, I’m myself a massive victim of it, eating American Chocolates back to back to back every day and night, even without my parents’ knowledge

That being said, Vitamin D is the health factor of our oral hygiene, how white our teeth are and how strong the enamel is — it’s determined by Vitamin D. High Cholecalciferol levels are a must.
Basically u need to eat a lot of protein — real protein from meat and eggs and not plant scam protein to get it.

It’s just set in place for humans man, all we have to do is eat a lot of damn meat and fat and organs and we’re set for life, we’ll feel good, we’ll smell good, we’ll look good, we’ll breathe good.
Everything will be simply 1000x better in life if we just stuck to eating meat and eggs and organs

That being said, grains and agriculture did help a lot of poor people get food and stay alive, but the modern day food industry as we know it is more addicted to making people addicted to their scam food and making bank than fulfilling people’s nutritional needs and keeping them happy.


RE: Detailed DECONSTRUCTION of ORTHO-HYGIENICS - 10khitman - 11-03-2023

(11-03-2023, 04:46 PM)brocode Wrote: That being said, Vitamin D is the health factor of our oral hygiene, how white our teeth are and how strong the enamel is — it’s determined by Vitamin D.

https://fluoridealert.org/studies/osteoid04/

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RE: Detailed DECONSTRUCTION of ORTHO-HYGIENICS - brocode - 11-03-2023

(11-03-2023, 04:52 PM)10khitman Wrote:
(11-03-2023, 04:46 PM)brocode Wrote: That being said, Vitamin D is the health factor of our oral hygiene, how white our teeth are and how strong the enamel is — it’s determined by Vitamin D.

https://fluoridealert.org/studies/osteoid04/

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RE: Detailed DECONSTRUCTION of ORTHO-HYGIENICS - lonelyjak - 11-03-2023

not one single word OP


RE: Detailed DECONSTRUCTION of ORTHO-HYGIENICS - Born2Mog - 11-03-2023

are there even non-extreme impoverished people who don't brush their teeth today?

what if it was just people who don't brush their teeth have bad teeth because they are so poor they literally can't afford to buy toothpaste


RE: Detailed DECONSTRUCTION of ORTHO-HYGIENICS - Born2Mog - 11-03-2023

i read it all i don't know enough to have an opinion (bit schizo) but interesting thread and looking forward to see results


RE: Detailed DECONSTRUCTION of ORTHO-HYGIENICS - vicious cycle - 12-03-2023

appetite itself is regulated by leptin and ghrelin. there are substances that do disregulate or disrupt it severely. you might notice people on SSRIs are overweight, which isn't caused by 'depression' otherwise it would be noted prior to any treatment that be. the disruption to their appetite-regulating hormones starts rapidly and with 1:1 match to the start of SSRI usage. I do agree with some of your points here, I believe that those who brush their teeth too much might be weakening their teeth. I however don't know enough of fluoride, but if you are going at this on pharma companies then you might take a look at the psychiatric industry


RE: Detailed DECONSTRUCTION of ORTHO-HYGIENICS - vicious cycle - 12-03-2023

I always avoided washing my hair or brushing my teeth routinely, and yes, my dental hygiene is ok, I never had to go to the dentristy either. but I don't know, maybe I am lucky


RE: Detailed DECONSTRUCTION of ORTHO-HYGIENICS - 10khitman - 12-03-2023

(12-03-2023, 12:44 AM)vicious cycle Wrote: appetite itself is regulated by leptin and ghrelin. there are substances that do disregulate or disrupt it severely. you might notice people on SSRIs are overweight, which isn't caused by 'depression' otherwise it would be noted prior to any treatment that be. the disruption to their appetite-regulating hormones starts rapidly and with 1:1 match to the start of SSRI usage. I do agree with some of your points here, I believe that those who brush their teeth too much might be weakening their teeth. I however don't know enough of fluoride, but if you are going at this on pharma companies then you might take a look at the psychiatric industry

Thank you for the input. You're right, the theory isn't complete, I guess the appetite part might've been a stretch; it was pure speculation. I think I had a severe schizo episode last night. I drafted this in 15min in a manic episode; the theory just came to me. Then I started hearing whistling at my window and thought it was CIA who was communicating with my cat (its over).

I still do however think the damage to digestive bacteria and enzymes from fluoridation is detrimental to both gut and oral health; it is a cycle linked to the processed foods we eat. So basically, my point 1/2 could still be legit and still offers a complete cyclical theory on how tooth brushing maintains poor oral hygiene. 

Anyways, yea, I do know about psychiatrics and quite well. I have a particular focus about pain killers.


RE: Detailed DECONSTRUCTION of ORTHO-HYGIENICS - Repsel1001 - 16-03-2023

Another thing to consider:

Gut flora is an important part of appetite, digestion, etc, and even if fluoride isn't directly going there, the use of a "kill-all" chemical is definitely going to kill something useful, which in turn is going to fuck with your gut flora.

Then you're prescribed a bunch of pills and shit for it, only fucking with your system even more. You're given a toxification crash course when you needed a detox altogether. This affects gut flora even more, which means more pills, which means more fuck ups, so forth.

There's tons of natural toothpaste formulae on the internet, in stores (Patanjali, so forth). We don't need big food or pharma. They need us. So let's make as your mother suggests, and end this toxic relation forever.


RE: Detailed DECONSTRUCTION of ORTHO-HYGIENICS - Altruist - 16-03-2023

fucking cringe


RE: Detailed DECONSTRUCTION of ORTHO-HYGIENICS - gran_autismo2 - 24-04-2023

Bump


RE: Detailed DECONSTRUCTION of ORTHO-HYGIENICS - 10khitman - 24-04-2023

(24-04-2023, 11:04 AM)gran_autismo2 Wrote: Bump

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