(06-03-2023, 04:25 AM)Born2Mog Wrote: is it weird i believe in god but only as a justification to call things "satanic" "evil" ect

like i have a vague intellectual belief of god from science

but only because of contrarian instinct and homophobia/intolerance

(06-03-2023, 04:30 AM)10khitman Wrote:

(06-03-2023, 04:25 AM)Born2Mog Wrote: is it weird i believe in god but only as a justification to call things "satanic" "evil" ect

like i have a vague intellectual belief of god from science

but only because of contrarian instinct and homophobia/intolerance

Well, not really. You recognize things in the current world are not as they should be, they dont fit with a society which is loving, wholesome, organic... (i.e. rampant homosexuality and presumably you also have disdain for drug culture, alcoholism, promiscuity, and other general degenerate behaviour)


Sometimes to come to the realization of good, you need to see the evil and realize there must be some opposing force to that evil, in this case God

If you meet Satan then you can extrapolate ergo God is real too

(06-03-2023, 04:34 AM)lonelyjak Wrote:

(06-03-2023, 04:30 AM)10khitman Wrote:

(06-03-2023, 04:25 AM)Born2Mog Wrote: is it weird i believe in god but only as a justification to call things "satanic" "evil" ect

like i have a vague intellectual belief of god from science

but only because of contrarian instinct and homophobia/intolerance

Well, not really. You recognize things in the current world are not as they should be, they dont fit with a society which is loving, wholesome, organic... (i.e. rampant homosexuality and presumably you also have disdain for drug culture, alcoholism, promiscuity, and other general degenerate behaviour)


Sometimes to come to the realization of good, you need to see the evil and realize there must be some opposing force to that evil, in this case God

If you meet Satan then you can extrapolate ergo God is real too

the world has never been this way. reality is the yin and the yang, you cant appreciate good without the presence of evil and vice versa, which is what you said yourself. everything is continually in flux, its puerile to think that we can sustain a state of endless utopia and humans would get bored with this arrangement anyways and find something to fight about. anyways God creates evil too so there you go

(06-03-2023, 04:36 AM)10khitman Wrote:

(06-03-2023, 04:34 AM)lonelyjak Wrote:

(06-03-2023, 04:30 AM)10khitman Wrote:

(06-03-2023, 04:25 AM)Born2Mog Wrote: is it weird i believe in god but only as a justification to call things "satanic" "evil" ect

like i have a vague intellectual belief of god from science

but only because of contrarian instinct and homophobia/intolerance

Well, not really. You recognize things in the current world are not as they should be, they dont fit with a society which is loving, wholesome, organic... (i.e. rampant homosexuality and presumably you also have disdain for drug culture, alcoholism, promiscuity, and other general degenerate behaviour)


Sometimes to come to the realization of good, you need to see the evil and realize there must be some opposing force to that evil, in this case God

If you meet Satan then you can extrapolate ergo God is real too

the world has never been this way. reality is the yin and the yang, you cant appreciate good without the presence of evil and vice versa, which is what you said yourself. everything is continually in flux, its puerile to think that we can sustain a state of endless utopia and humans would get bored with this arrangement anyways and find something to fight about. anyways God creates evil too so there you go

God didnt create evil, evil is a circumstance of sentient existence and he did create sentient existence but he ALLOWS (didnt create specifically) the evil so we can maintain our freedom of will

and no, the world was never perfect, but some people can recognize what the world should be like by the eyes of God and therefore have an aversion to the opposite instinctively regardless if they can change things or not

(06-03-2023, 04:30 AM)10khitman Wrote:

(06-03-2023, 04:25 AM)Born2Mog Wrote: is it weird i believe in god but only as a justification to call things "satanic" "evil" ect

like i have a vague intellectual belief of god from science

but only because of contrarian instinct and homophobia/intolerance

Well, not really. You recognize things in the current world are not as they should be, they dont fit with a society which is loving, wholesome, organic... (i.e. rampant homosexuality and presumably you also have distain for drug culture, alcoholism, promiscuity, and other general degenerate behaviour)

Sometimes to come to the realization of good, you need to see the evil and realize there must be some opposing force to that evil, in this case God

If you meet Satan then you can extrapolate ergo God is real too

(06-03-2023, 04:40 AM)lonelyjak Wrote:

(06-03-2023, 04:36 AM)10khitman Wrote:

(06-03-2023, 04:34 AM)lonelyjak Wrote:

(06-03-2023, 04:30 AM)10khitman Wrote: Well, not really. You recognize things in the current world are not as they should be, they dont fit with a society which is loving, wholesome, organic... (i.e. rampant homosexuality and presumably you also have disdain for drug culture, alcoholism, promiscuity, and other general degenerate behaviour)


Sometimes to come to the realization of good, you need to see the evil and realize there must be some opposing force to that evil, in this case God

If you meet Satan then you can extrapolate ergo God is real too

the world has never been this way. reality is the yin and the yang, you cant appreciate good without the presence of evil and vice versa, which is what you said yourself. everything is continually in flux, its puerile to think that we can sustain a state of endless utopia and humans would get bored with this arrangement anyways and find something to fight about. anyways God creates evil too so there you go

God didnt create evil, evil is a circumstance of sentient existence and he did create sentient existence but he ALLOWS (didnt create specifically) the evil so we can maintain our freedom of will

and no, the world was never perfect, but some people can recognize what the world should be like by the eyes of God and therefore have an aversion to the opposite instinctively regardless if they can change things or not

Isaiah 45:7

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

(06-03-2023, 04:41 AM)Born2Mog Wrote:

(06-03-2023, 04:30 AM)10khitman Wrote:

(06-03-2023, 04:25 AM)Born2Mog Wrote: is it weird i believe in god but only as a justification to call things "satanic" "evil" ect

like i have a vague intellectual belief of god from science

but only because of contrarian instinct and homophobia/intolerance

Well, not really. You recognize things in the current world are not as they should be, they dont fit with a society which is loving, wholesome, organic... (i.e. rampant homosexuality and presumably you also have distain for drug culture, alcoholism, promiscuity, and other general degenerate behaviour)

Sometimes to come to the realization of good, you need to see the evil and realize there must be some opposing force to that evil, in this case God

If you meet Satan then you can extrapolate ergo God is real too

probably legit but also defines "god" as something completely different that what typical person thinks of it as

(06-03-2023, 04:44 AM)10khitman Wrote:

(06-03-2023, 04:41 AM)Born2Mog Wrote:

(06-03-2023, 04:30 AM)10khitman Wrote:

(06-03-2023, 04:25 AM)Born2Mog Wrote: is it weird i believe in god but only as a justification to call things "satanic" "evil" ect

like i have a vague intellectual belief of god from science

but only because of contrarian instinct and homophobia/intolerance

Well, not really. You recognize things in the current world are not as they should be, they dont fit with a society which is loving, wholesome, organic... (i.e. rampant homosexuality and presumably you also have distain for drug culture, alcoholism, promiscuity, and other general degenerate behaviour)

Sometimes to come to the realization of good, you need to see the evil and realize there must be some opposing force to that evil, in this case God

If you meet Satan then you can extrapolate ergo God is real too

probably legit but also defines "god" as something completely different that what typical person thinks of it as

Hows that? Seems to fit the conventional idea of God fine to me.

(06-03-2023, 04:44 AM)10khitman Wrote:

(06-03-2023, 04:41 AM)Born2Mog Wrote:

(06-03-2023, 04:30 AM)10khitman Wrote:

(06-03-2023, 04:25 AM)Born2Mog Wrote: is it weird i believe in god but only as a justification to call things "satanic" "evil" ect

like i have a vague intellectual belief of god from science

but only because of contrarian instinct and homophobia/intolerance

Well, not really. You recognize things in the current world are not as they should be, they dont fit with a society which is loving, wholesome, organic... (i.e. rampant homosexuality and presumably you also have distain for drug culture, alcoholism, promiscuity, and other general degenerate behaviour)

Sometimes to come to the realization of good, you need to see the evil and realize there must be some opposing force to that evil, in this case God

If you meet Satan then you can extrapolate ergo God is real too

probably legit but also defines "god" as something completely different that what typical person thinks of it as

Hows that? Seems to fit the conventional idea of God fine to me.

(06-03-2023, 04:57 AM)Born2Mog Wrote:

(06-03-2023, 04:44 AM)10khitman Wrote:

(06-03-2023, 04:41 AM)Born2Mog Wrote:

(06-03-2023, 04:30 AM)10khitman Wrote: Well, not really. You recognize things in the current world are not as they should be, they dont fit with a society which is loving, wholesome, organic... (i.e. rampant homosexuality and presumably you also have distain for drug culture, alcoholism, promiscuity, and other general degenerate behaviour)

Sometimes to come to the realization of good, you need to see the evil and realize there must be some opposing force to that evil, in this case God

If you meet Satan then you can extrapolate ergo God is real too

probably legit but also defines "god" as something completely different that what typical person thinks of it as

Hows that? Seems to fit the conventional idea of God fine to me.

Idea of a universal, inate good/evil, maybe cali yuga, organized satanism type ideas is a few fries short from the idea of a sentient, all powerful god, in christian sense

you could evolutionary psychology it if you wanted to

(06-03-2023, 07:04 AM)10khitman Wrote:

(06-03-2023, 04:57 AM)Born2Mog Wrote:

(06-03-2023, 04:44 AM)10khitman Wrote:

(06-03-2023, 04:41 AM)Born2Mog Wrote: probably legit but also defines "god" as something completely different that what typical person thinks of it as

Hows that? Seems to fit the conventional idea of God fine to me.

Idea of a universal, inate good/evil, maybe cali yuga, organized satanism type ideas is a few fries short from the idea of a sentient, all powerful god, in christian sense

you could evolutionary psychology it if you wanted to

So, which do you believe then? You referenced earlier that you believe in God, so are you talking about this hinduist/pantheist type inherent good/evil type of God, or are you a theist? 


I think my earlier explanation works fine from a theist point of view.

(06-03-2023, 04:40 PM)Born2Mog Wrote:

(06-03-2023, 07:04 AM)10khitman Wrote:

(06-03-2023, 04:57 AM)Born2Mog Wrote:

(06-03-2023, 04:44 AM)10khitman Wrote: Hows that? Seems to fit the conventional idea of God fine to me.

Idea of a universal, inate good/evil, maybe cali yuga, organized satanism type ideas is a few fries short from the idea of a sentient, all powerful god, in christian sense

you could evolutionary psychology it if you wanted to

So, which do you believe then? You referenced earlier that you believe in God, so are you talking about this hinduist/pantheist type inherent good/evil type of God, or are you a theist? 


I think my earlier explanation works fine from a theist point of view.

im not philosophical type that organize information in my head into systems, and i am scientist who need everything proven

i can't even tell you my favorite food 

but i can say i'm almost certain that

bible is legit (though not smth personally interested in)

secret satanist/people who HATE christianity are high up 

evolution/big bang not as legit as presented

jesus legit and very powerful, demons fear him

i'm not sold on

"the trinity", "god is omniprescent, omnipotent, ect", heaven/hell, you need jesus to be saved theory 

hinduism is interesting but no opinion on theism/pantheism, does it make a practical difference?