(05-02-2024, 01:15 PM)spiritual_cuccumber87 Wrote:

(05-02-2024, 01:13 PM)slop Wrote:

(05-02-2024, 12:39 PM)spiritual_cuccumber87 Wrote:

(05-02-2024, 11:10 AM)slop Wrote: Anything teutonic

explain hitler

explain what about him

stop being obtuse

(05-02-2024, 01:31 PM)slop Wrote:

(05-02-2024, 01:15 PM)spiritual_cuccumber87 Wrote:

(05-02-2024, 01:13 PM)slop Wrote:

(05-02-2024, 12:39 PM)spiritual_cuccumber87 Wrote: explain hitler

explain what about him

stop being obtuse

obtuse



"explain hitler"










Was this meant to insinuate that Hitler, as a speaker of German, a teutonic language, is evidence that German is not the most subhuman language?



"explain hitler"

(05-02-2024, 01:43 PM)spiritual_cuccumber87 Wrote:

(05-02-2024, 01:31 PM)slop Wrote:

(05-02-2024, 01:15 PM)spiritual_cuccumber87 Wrote:

(05-02-2024, 01:13 PM)slop Wrote: explain what about him

stop being obtuse

obtuse



"explain hitler"










Was this meant to insinuate that Hitler, as a speaker of German, a teutonic language, is evidence that German is not the most subhuman language?



"explain hitler"

Yeah because he was the best orator of the modern age. No need to elaborate at all

(05-02-2024, 01:44 PM)slop Wrote:

(05-02-2024, 01:43 PM)spiritual_cuccumber87 Wrote:

(05-02-2024, 01:31 PM)slop Wrote:

(05-02-2024, 01:15 PM)spiritual_cuccumber87 Wrote: stop being obtuse

obtuse



"explain hitler"










Was this meant to insinuate that Hitler, as a speaker of German, a teutonic language, is evidence that German is not the most subhuman language?



"explain hitler"

Yeah because he was the best orator of the modern age. No need to elaborate at all

Every language has good and bad orators. This proves he was a good speaker of German, not that German is a good language.

(05-02-2024, 01:49 PM)spiritual_cuccumber87 Wrote:

(05-02-2024, 01:44 PM)slop Wrote:

(05-02-2024, 01:43 PM)spiritual_cuccumber87 Wrote:

(05-02-2024, 01:31 PM)slop Wrote: obtuse



"explain hitler"










Was this meant to insinuate that Hitler, as a speaker of German, a teutonic language, is evidence that German is not the most subhuman language?



"explain hitler"

Yeah because he was the best orator of the modern age. No need to elaborate at all

Every language has good and bad orators. This proves he was a good speaker of German, not that German is a good language.

Their language is 1/4 of the reason the nazis were demonised 


I half what agree, but  Link me to a  speech not in German that's even 1/10th as captivating as one of Hitler's meth fueled  rants 

And for the record, English is my first language and I m not even fluent in it

(05-02-2024, 02:02 PM)slop Wrote:

(05-02-2024, 01:49 PM)spiritual_cuccumber87 Wrote:

(05-02-2024, 01:44 PM)slop Wrote:

(05-02-2024, 01:43 PM)spiritual_cuccumber87 Wrote: Yeah because he was the best orator of the modern age. No need to elaborate at all

Every language has good and bad orators. This proves he was a good speaker of German, not that German is a good language.

Their language is 1/4 of the reason the nazis were demonised 


I half what agree, but  Link me to a  speech not in German that's even 1/10th as captivating as one of Hitler's meth fueled  rants 

And for the record, English is my first language and I m not even fluent in it

If Nazism had come up in France we would have just demonized French instead.

Our perception of another language, and how speakers use it, is based in how it differs from our own language. eg. english words that end in "que" tend to be seen as beautiful. French is full of these words but they are commonplace and banal. But an English listening to French will hear a lot of those words and think the language is more beautiful because of it. German has a lot of syllables that to the English ear sound "harsh" but to a German person these words are commonplace and banal.

In any case, it's impossible to separate cultural association from aesthetic appreciation, so when I listen to Hitler's speech I can understand how it's captivating to his listeners but I probably have unconscious resistance to feeling it myself since I know what he's saying is so heinous. if i were trying to demonstrate how beautiful German is i would have picked rilke or goethe.

There are differences between languages as well what constitutes a good orator. My suspicion is that what Germans consider a good orator is closer to what Americans consider a good orator and this is why many English speakers find his oratory captivating even without knowing what he's saying and if its convincing. In France for example "speaking well" tends to be associated with displaying less emotion and with more emphasis on subtle word choice than dramatic delivery. 

The whole question is stupid as fuck but I engage with it for the plot.

(05-02-2024, 01:39 PM)slop Wrote: Language Tier List

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(05-02-2024, 01:39 PM)Riley Phoenixblatt Wrote: Language Tier List

S tier
French
Russian
Italian (northern dialects)

A Tier
Catalan
Amharic
Portugeuse (Portugal)
Slovenian
Greek

B Tier
Korean
Spanish (depends on dialect)
Persian
Arabic
Romanian

C Tier
Scandinavian languages
Irish
English
All other Slavic tongues

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German
All other Asian languages
All other African languages

F Tier
Dutch